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RobertSubnet
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Posted Wed Jan 13, 2010, 10:26pm
Subject: Recommendation to buy a Mazzer Mini online
 

Hello all.

Well at long last I have finally saved enough to buy a MM. I was wondering if someone could recommend a reputable place online to purchase one.

Also, I have seen this warning on at least one site and I was wondering if a Mazzer owner (or someone knowledgeable about them) could tell me if it is true.

As with all coffee grinders, it is very important to only change grind settings on Mazzer coffee grinders when the unit is powered 'on' and the burrs are in motion. If you do not do this, the burrs will 'gunk' up and require cleaning by you every time this occurs. Changing the grind settings when the burrs are not in motion will render the grinder to only produce very coarse grinds or no grinds at all. If this result occurs, this will be considered operator error for lack of following directions, and not be classified as a defective grinder.

I have a 3 year old daughter who has learned how to push the chair to the kitchen counter. Is it actually possible that if she moves the grind settings she could wreck the grinder??

Thanks all for your help,
~Robert
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Posted Wed Jan 13, 2010, 11:22pm
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WRT daughter, highly unlikely. The burrs connect on a 'flat' and if tightened too much, the grinder simply squeals and then seizes up, potentially overheating the motor, but the burrs will be fine (after a cleaning of any fines from the excessive rubbing). Might want to remove the adjusting 'pin' and hide it away, as well. :)

I got one of my Mini's from Aabree (later discovered to be Wholelattelove), and the other from an eBay/online retailer called espressodealer.com, back when BING was called Live, and had a great percentage off Buy-It-Now Auctions (BIN) on eBay. Seller was quick to ship and had tracking, and unit was shiny new. Then we have all the usual dealers: 1st-Line, Chris's, espressoparts.com, et al. Enjoy!
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Posted Wed Jan 13, 2010, 11:22pm
Subject: Re: Recommendation to buy a Mazzer Mini online
 

Maybe I'm not 'in the loop,' but I've never heard that one before. I make grind adjustments to my MM from time to time without the machine being on and it's never behaved like that.
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Posted Wed Jan 13, 2010, 11:25pm
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puma996 Said:

Maybe I'm not 'in the loop,' but I've never heard that one before. I make grind adjustments to my MM from time to time without the machine being on and it's never behaved like that.

Posted January 13, 2010 link

The gunking assumes you have beans in your hopper and feed. I've always ground per dose, and indeed have adjusted w/o unit running, with no issue.
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Posted Wed Jan 13, 2010, 11:28pm
Subject: Re: Recommendation to buy a Mazzer Mini online
 

Robert,

Questions (if I may):
1)  Why a Mazzer?
2)  What sort of espresso machine do you have?
3)  Do you intend to use the Mazzer Mini for any other type of coffee preparation?

Places to buy a new Mazzer Mini:
--  1st-Line Equipment, LLC
--  Chris' Coffee Service

There are other (better?) and certainly less expensive options, if you're interested.

As for your concern about the warning . . .

As with all coffee grinders, it is very important to only change grind settings on Mazzer coffee grinders when the unit is powered 'on' and the burrs are in motion. If you do not do this, the burrs will 'gunk' up and require cleaning by you every time this occurs. Changing the grind settings when the burrs are not in motion will render the grinder to only produce very coarse grinds or no grinds at all. If this result occurs, this will be considered operator error for lack of following directions, and not be classified as a defective grinder.

. . . re-read the first five words.  This is true with ALL grinders.  "Wreck" may be a bit excessive.  Conceivable, yes.  Likely, no.  But you could have to tear it down to clean it up.

Cheers,
Jason

 
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Posted Thu Jan 14, 2010, 2:20am
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The only time that even matters, at all, is if you are keeping the hopper loaded with beans.

Some people do indeed keep the hopper full of beans, or somewhat full. -If you do this, the grinder must be running when you are adjusting the grinder.  Otherwise, there is beans in between the burrs, and you're jamming the burrs onto the beans.  This will impair your grind quality signifigantly, and will likely cause the grinder to stall.

Others weigh out each shot's worth of beans, add them to the grinder, grind the beans through until there is nothing left. -If you do this, you can adjust the grinder when it's on, OR off.  Doesn't matter.

 
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Posted Thu Jan 14, 2010, 5:22am
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If you have your heart set on a Mazzer Mini I'd suggest buying one from Click Here (www.chriscoffee.com)

However, before you pull the trigger on a Mini, I'd suggest that you take more than casual look at:

Click Here (www.home-barista.com)

Click Here (www.home-barista.com)

Click Here (www.home-barista.com)

"The Baratza Vario Grinder Owner's Thread"

Click Here (www.home-barista.com)

Those posts are the reason that I now own a Vario.
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Posted Thu Jan 14, 2010, 6:24am
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Zin and Dodge really nailed this one.  I'd really look over what they had to say if it were me.

 
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Posted Thu Jan 14, 2010, 12:37pm
Subject: Re: Recommendation to buy a Mazzer Mini online
 

Thanks everyone for your comments.

Some people do indeed keep the hopper full of beans, or somewhat full. -If you do this, the grinder must be running when you are adjusting the grinder.  Otherwise, there is beans in between the burrs, and you're jamming the burrs onto the beans.  This will impair your grind quality signifigantly, and will likely cause the grinder to stall.

I am one of those people who keeps the hopper full of beans. If the grinder "stalls" can the grinder be emptied, the burrs cleaned and the machine reset? Or is the grinder ruined if it "stalls?"

Is it possible to remove the adjustment pin so my daughter (or anyone else) won't play with it?

Regarding the questions asked of me:
I pull about 10 - 15 shots per week.
The grinder will be used for making espresso only.
I have a lever machine, a LaPavoni.

My pulls on the LaPavoni are consistently thin. My current grinder is a Cuisinart job. For the most part it is a fine grinder, however it does not grind fine enough for the LaPavoni. So I am looking for a stepless grinder in order to "dial in" a better grind setting - the Cuisinart is a stepped grinder.

I will take a look at the links posted.

Thanks again for the comments.
~Robert
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Posted Thu Jan 14, 2010, 1:48pm
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"Stepped" v. "stepless" isn't the problem with your Cuisinart; "Cuisinart" is the problem with your Cuisinart.

The Mazzer Mini is a fine grinder.  There are others that are its equal.  There are others that are its superior.  You will be happy with a Mazzer Mini; but I'll tell you that the biggest improvement I ever made -- in terms of equipment -- to my espresso was when I sold my Mazzer Mini and upgraded.

Lots of people are very happy with their Mazzer Mini.  Personally I think that you can do better, and for less money.  But it's your money to spend; not ours.  

RobertSubnet Said:

I am one of those people who keeps the hopper full of beans. If the grinder "stalls" can the grinder be emptied, the burrs cleaned and the machine reset? Or is the grinder ruined if it "stalls?"

Posted January 14, 2010 link

It won't be ruined; as I said above,

JasonBrandtLewis Said:

"Wreck" may be a bit excessive.  Conceivable, yes.  Likely, no.  But you could have to tear it down to clean it up.

Posted January 13, 2010 link

Is it possible to remove the adjustment pin so my daughter (or anyone else) won't play with it?
Yes, but then how would you make the adjustments that you need to make to the grind on a regular basis?  But in all honestly, I think you are excessively concerned about a very minor issue.

Cheers,
Jason

 
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