Drifter Senior Member Joined: 3 May 2005 Posts: 43 Location: New Jersey Expertise: I love coffee
Grinder: Baratza Virtuoso Vac Pot: Bodum Santos Electric Drip: Presto Scandinavian, Melitta... Roaster: SC/TO , Poppery Mk I
Posted Fri Dec 4, 2009, 4:56am Subject: Re: New grinder from Baratza soon - Virtuoso Preciso
Man that's interesting. I just picked up a refurbed Virtuoso to go with my new-to-me Silvia (I know, I know, not ideal but all I can swing at the moment). I can get some halfway decent shots with this grinder, but am really intrigued about this new one now. I was contemplating an upgrade soon, but with this news I may just pick up a hand grinder for espresso for now and wait and see what this new one is all about.
Dooglas Senior Member Joined: 12 Mar 2005 Posts: 662 Location: Portland, OR Expertise: I love coffee
Espresso: Expobar HX, La Pavoni lever Grinder: Ascaso, Solis Drip: Bonavita, Bodum press Roaster: GeneCafe, Behmor
Posted Fri Dec 4, 2009, 9:49am Subject: Re: New grinder from Baratza soon - Virtuoso Preciso
Well, I understand why Baratza might do this. It fills in the gap in their product line between the Virtuoso and the Vario. I am less clear about why to buy one. A refurb Virtuoso is a heck of a fine press and drip grinder at a very attractive price. But when you run the price up to $275, you must compare it to the Vario and a number of other true espresso grinders. Tough competition for the small burrset in the Virtuoso/Preciso.
vvyk3d Senior Member Joined: 18 Dec 2004 Posts: 36 Location: Chicago Area Expertise: I love coffee
Posted Fri Dec 4, 2009, 10:25am Subject: Re: New grinder from Baratza soon - Virtuoso Preciso
Drifter Said:
Man that's interesting. I just picked up a refurbed Virtuoso to go with my new-to-me Silvia (I know, I know, not ideal but all I can swing at the moment). I can get some halfway decent shots with this grinder, but am really intrigued about this new one now. I was contemplating an upgrade soon, but with this news I may just pick up a hand grinder for espresso for now and wait and see what this new one is all about.
Yeah I was gonna pick up a refurb for my drip needs as well but I think I might also make due until there's some more information on this item. The email certainly raised more questions than it answered at any rate, damn them for improving their products! :-)
Drifter Senior Member Joined: 3 May 2005 Posts: 43 Location: New Jersey Expertise: I love coffee
Grinder: Baratza Virtuoso Vac Pot: Bodum Santos Electric Drip: Presto Scandinavian, Melitta... Roaster: SC/TO , Poppery Mk I
Posted Fri Dec 4, 2009, 11:12am Subject: Re: New grinder from Baratza soon - Virtuoso Preciso
In my situation, having a dedicated espresso grinder as well as a drip/press grinder isn't an option. My wife already complains about how much coffee-related stuff is on the counter, so having 2 appliances that in her eyes "do the same thing" won't fly. I'm predominately a drip/press coffee drinker but would like to be able to make good espresso when the mood strikes me. So I'm looking for a grinder that is great at drip/press (which the Virtuoso already is) and good at espresso (Virtuoso is only barely passable here) with ease of switching between the two. I know the Vario supposedly fits this bill, but the $400+ price tag doesn't. So I would be very interested in a $275 jack-of-all-trades grinder.
yakster Senior Member Joined: 25 Feb 2009 Posts: 826 Location: San Jose, CA Expertise: I live coffee
Espresso: La Peppina / Gaggia Factory... Grinder: Vario / Kyocera Vac Pot: Yama 8 + Pyrex Lox-in Rod Drip: Chemex / CCD / Aeropress Roaster: Behmor
Posted Mon Jan 4, 2010, 7:13pm Subject: Re: New grinder from Baratza soon - Virtuoso Preciso
I'm in the same boat with my Wife and the counter. I've got a PID for my espresso machine that I have to hide after each use until I repackage it to be counter-worthy, and currently I'm stuck with a Cuisinart false burr grinder for all my non-espresso needs and the Kyocera ceramic hand mill grinder for espresso so I'm eagerly awaiting word on the performance of the Baratza Virtuoso Preciso.
I did find the following tantalizing tweets (I hope it's ok to post these):
Jmanespresso Senior Member Joined: 18 Jan 2009 Posts: 1,935 Location: Westchester NY Expertise: I live coffee
Espresso: La Spaziale Vivaldi II Grinder: Mazzer Major - Vario Vac Pot: Yama-SY5/SY8/TCA5 Drip: V60, Beehouse, CCD Roaster: Hottop B
Posted Sat Jan 9, 2010, 3:08pm Subject: Re: New grinder from Baratza soon - Virtuoso Preciso
Nope.. Twitter needs to be added to the list of places to go while coffee-ing around the web.
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