FredK Senior Member Joined: 28 Jun 2009 Posts: 152 Location: NJ Expertise: I love coffee
Espresso: Gaggia Classic Grinder: Kyocera hand grinder Roaster: FreshRoast+8
Posted Tue Jul 21, 2009, 9:00am Subject: Re: Hand Grinder
...I guess it's finding the tightest adjustment point that leaves room for interpretation. I always am able to turn it just a bit tighter, and then a bit tighter again....I guess I should listen to kenntak's advice...
Posted Wed Jul 22, 2009, 7:11pm Subject: Re: Hand Grinder
yea, i got a kyocera. its the best grind i have ever seen for that money. grinds like a $1000 grinder! so glad i got it. of corse its a bit more effort involved than a motorized grinder, but for me thats part of the fun. the effort is worth it. respect the bean, grind slow.
I had an opportunity to mess with Orphan's other manual Japanese grinder, the Porlex. nicely made, 190 turns for 14 grams of espresso. Easy to clean, nice stainless, ceramic burr set. Also does a nice Press pot. I can recommend this grinder as an excellent travel grinder. I prefer a wood grinder such as my KyM, PeDe, etc. Mine does 14 grams in 60 turns. Having both types would be cool. Be patient, Doug and Barb always have several wood grinders up every few weeks.
I have a Nuova Simonelli MDX and an unbranded espresso capable hand grinder (Made in West Germany.) I would say the Mdx does a better job but only slightly so.
If the shots I've pulled using a Robur-E at a local coffee shop were my personal 10 then the MDX is a 8 and the hand grinder is a 7.5 I also have a heavily modified Krups XKV that I would say rates at about a 2-3 Mind you I am not quite up to the "Wicked Skillz" level of home baristaing quite yet.
vawpwss Senior Member Joined: 10 Aug 2009 Posts: 2 Location: Singapore Expertise: Just starting
Grinder: Kyocera Drip: Bodum Solo Drip
Posted Mon Aug 10, 2009, 2:15am Subject: Re: Hand Grinder
I am a newbie to coffee. After going through this forum, I bought the kyocera and bodum solo drip. Anyone using kyocera with drip? Can advise know how tight should I set the grind? Currently I release it 1 full turn from the tightest.
The_Shadow Senior Member Joined: 18 Oct 2007 Posts: 504 Location: North Carolina Expertise: Pro Barista
Espresso: NS Aurelia 2 group, 1977... Grinder: NS MDX, NS Grinta, KyM... Vac Pot: N/A Drip: BUNN VPR/LPG Combo Roaster: Leave That To The Pros
Posted Mon Aug 10, 2009, 4:14am Subject: Re: Hand Grinder
I can vouch for the grinding capability of the hand grinder I have. Bought a nice KyM copper Turkish style mill from Orphan Espresso and it flat out rocks. The fineness and consistency is on par with the Nuova Simonelli MDX at work and the shots pulled from my Cremina/KyM combo were better than the best shots I could get from the MDX/Linea combo at work using the same beans.
I was going to buy a Kyocera from OE as well until I saw the KyM Turkish in that exquisite/rare copper housing. I asked Doug and Barb for their opinions of both grinders and they gave me an honest description of both. They said the KyM is a superior grinder, one of the best hand grinders they've seen and will pretty much last a lifetime due to the construction/quality, but is a bit harder to strip down for cleaning. They went on to say the Kyocera holds its own as well and is easier to clean, but doesn't have the build quality of the KyM.
I, like so many others, highly recommend buying from Orphan if you can. With them what you see/read is exactly what you get. Later!
The answer is not at all evenly. This is the same grinder I have, and I have few complaints. However, like other hand burr grinders, I do not believe it would be ideal for press pots; at coarser grinds the grain consistency is very uneven. For pour-over, espresso, or Turkish coffee, no problem.
Posted Sun Jul 7, 2013, 7:57pm Subject: Re: Hand Grinder
I know this thread has been dormant for awhile, but has anyone used the Hario MM-2? Can't seemto find any reviews or videos of people using it. Want to know if it is suitable for espresso like the other Harios & Kyocera, etc… Thanks.
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