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f16cla1
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Posted Mon Jul 13, 2009, 3:25pm
Subject: Hand Grinder
 

Hi everybody,  I've been in the market for a hand grinder ever since I bought an espresso machine.  Now I've heard many times before on these forums to go to orphanespresso.com.  I've looked at this site and found that I'm always waiting because they usually only have 1 or two espresso grinders up at a time and then they're gone within a day.  That being said, I do like that they test them to ensure they will get espresso fine results.  I've also read that sweetmarias.com sells them, but they're all new.  Which means no guarantee that they'll grind fine enough.   Does anyone have any suggestions on where to get a hand grinder that will for sure grind espresso?
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FredK
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Posted Mon Jul 13, 2009, 5:13pm
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I've heard the new Zassenhaus' aren't as good as the old ones. I'm considering the Kyocera from orphan. But I first would like to know if the Kyocera is equal to say at least a Cunill Tranquilo for use with espresso.
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Espresso: Gaggia Classic
Grinder: Kyocera Hand Grinder
Posted Mon Jul 13, 2009, 5:15pm
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Well, Orphan does have a couple of new hand grinders in stock that will do espresso.  I have one of them, the Kyocera.
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Posted Mon Jul 13, 2009, 5:29pm
Subject: Re: Hand Grinder
 

f16cla1 Said:

Now I've heard many times before on these forums to go to orphanespresso.com.  I've looked at this site and found that I'm always waiting because they usually only have 1 or two espresso grinders up at a time and then they're gone within a day.

Posted July 13, 2009 link

I got frustrated waiting as well and ended up getting a PeDe 435 off E-bay for $50.

It's in great shape but doesn't really grind super fine. Maybe with time it will get better since it had never been run before I bought it.

I also have a Zass Turkish grinder. This grinds VERY fine, but even then, I haven't been very impressed with any hand grinder I've tried.  Very inconsistant grind in my opinion.

I tend to think you get what you pay for. I've tried several now, but I haven't found a sub $100 conical hand grinder that tastes any better than my first $150 Starbucks conical grinder (even if the hand grinder was made in Germany).
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Posted Mon Jul 13, 2009, 6:49pm
Subject: Re: Hand Grinder
 

From what I've seen with Orphan, he who hesitates loses out. I almost went for that really sweet one they had a week or two ago for like $115- went back and forth most of a day- and then it was to late. (who got that one anyway?) I would say they're still your best bet, just keep checking back and grab one while you can. Maybe you could email them and let them know you're seriously ready to buy something now and ask them what's in the works? Good luck to you.
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Posted Tue Jul 14, 2009, 4:36am
Subject: Re: Hand Grinder
 

Thank you to everyone who contributed.  I decided to go the route of a new grinder, but through orphan.  I went with the kyocera ceramic grinder.  Watching a video they put out, and reading their reviews it seems like it will be a good buy.
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Kenntak
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Posted Tue Jul 14, 2009, 4:43am
Subject: Re: Hand Grinder
 

I think that was a good choice.  As I said in the other thread, I have had good success with mine.  I made two caps this morning and with 120-130 turns, I pulled 24 and 27 second 2 ounce shots, the variables of course being the amount of beans used and tamping pressure.  I have been getting shots like that all week with my current setting.
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Posted Tue Jul 14, 2009, 5:02am
Subject: Re: Hand Grinder
 

Hi Chris,

I just saw this thread and noticed you're in Syracuse.  Out of curiosity, where are you buying your beans? Also, you owe it to yourself to have an espresso at Cafe Kubal on James Street some time.

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f16cla1
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Posted Tue Jul 14, 2009, 3:35pm
Subject: Re: Hand Grinder
 

Well I actually know cafe kubal very well.  I haven't been buying beans there for a while only because I didn't want to use good quality beans until I bought a grinder to properly utilize them.  I actually brought my espresso machine there when I first got it, and the owner Matt helped me get the best quality shot from it.  Thats when he broke the news that I need a grinder to get a good shot.  So for a while I bought beans there and had them grind it but I decided that I was basically wasting good beans.  Now with my new grinder I plan to go back there.
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Posted Wed Jul 15, 2009, 2:34am
Subject: Re: Hand Grinder
 

I just got a really sweet Zass from Orphan (see my profile).  I bought it about a week ago.  I am very happy.  I too went back and forth and lost out on grinders, so when I saw this one, I didn't hesitate.

Sheila
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