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DeanOK
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Posted Sat Feb 1, 2014, 10:59pm
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Scottes Said:

I just got my new Vario as an upgrade to my Encore. This is not for espresso, just pour-over, Chemex, and press.

Posted February 1, 2014 link

I use a Ceramic Vario daily with a Quickmill Vetrano 2B... I find it stable and easy to use... never have tried any grind other than espresso. I think there is many others using the Vario fore espresso as well.
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Posted Sun Feb 2, 2014, 6:47am
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Scottes Said:

I planned on eventually going to steel, but supposedly the ceramic will do press grind... Steel burrs should be an upgrade, not a fix, IMHO.

Posted February 1, 2014 link

I agree.  You "should" be able to adjust the ceramic burr version to grind coarse.  I was not able to do this  but I "should" have been.  Others have been successful and Baratza says that this is possible.
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Posted Sun Feb 2, 2014, 7:07am
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moosepucky Said:

You "should" be able to adjust the ceramic burr version to grind coarse.  I was not able to do this  but I "should" have been.

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What did you end up doing? Did you somehow eventually get it to grind coarse, or did you switch to another grinder?

I'm very, very close to returning this and looking for a different grinder. I can't even get a 14oz batch through a pour-over at its coarsest setting. It takes 1.5 times as long as it does with my Encore set at 24 out of 40.
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Posted Sun Feb 2, 2014, 2:33pm
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Scottes Said:

What did you end up doing? Did you somehow eventually get it to grind coarse, or did you switch to another grinder?

I'm very, very close to returning this and looking for a different grinder. I can't even get a 14oz batch through a pour-over at its coarsest setting. It takes 1.5 times as long as it does with my Encore set at 24 out of 40.

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I whined and cried a lot.....  Then I spoke to Baratza about the problem I was having and they let me send my Vario-W back to them (I purchased it directly through Baratza).  They gave me full credit toward a Forte brew grinder (even credited me for the steel burrs I purchased for the Vario).  They offered to exchange the Vario-W for a set up one with the steel burrs but I asked if I could get a credit toward a Forte-BG

I've owned many of their grinders over the years.  I've done rebuilds on the gear boxes of my older ones, replaced burr sets and adjuster mechs.  They always have spare parts on hand and ship the same day.


I can't say enough good things about Baratza customer service.  WAY beyond what I would expect from any company!!!  

They've got me as a customer for life.....


Right now I only own 3 of their grinders (Forte-BG, Preciso/Esatto, and a Maestro plus).  The Forte and Preciso are brew grinders and I use a modified Super Jolly for espresso.  The Maestro plus is at my other home and used as a brew grinder there (no espresso machine, just pour over)

I will say that the Vario-W was a killer espresso grinder (before I foo bared it all up).  After modifying the SJ I rarely used the Vario which is what precipitated the attempt to make it into a second brew grinder

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Posted Sun Feb 2, 2014, 2:58pm
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moosepucky Said:

Then I spoke to Baratza about the problem I was having and they let me send my Vario-W back to them...

Posted February 2, 2014 link

I got mine through Amazon and it's going back as defective. It won't work as advertised, and I'm not happy about that at all.

But for some strange reason I'm not ready to give on Baratza, just the Vario for non-espresso. I'm pretty darned sure that I'm going to get a Preciso. There doesn't seem to be anything better in the price range for what I want, the Vario is certainly a nice piece, and my Encore is fantastic for a $130 grinder (just not good enough for me since I'm picky). I've read many posts about the Preciso and people seem quite happy with its non-espresso performance - far more so than the people trying Varios for non-espresso.
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Posted Sun Feb 2, 2014, 3:52pm
Subject: Re: The Baratza Vario Grinder Owner's Thread
 

You can buy directly through Baratza and have them install the steel burr set in the Vario.  It will come pre set up for the steel burrs.

Right now they are showing refurb Vario and Vario-W models available.  Refurbish means their techs have gone through the grinder and it "should" work better than one that is just off the assembly line.

Click Here (www.baratza.com)

When you go through check out for the Vario-W you have the option of changing the burrs to steel for another $20.  well worth it if you are looking for a very nice brew grinder.

I would push you in the direction of the Vario-W (weight based unit) as it is uber convenient for getting consistent pour over using the exact same weight time after time.

Preciso with an Esatto attachment will run very closes to what a Vario-W will cost you and the Vario-W IS the better grinder.
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Posted Sun Feb 9, 2014, 8:09am
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I just got one last week.
Unpacked it, assemble, simple.
Put the setting on coarse to use with my french press first while I read the manual, and it came out super fine, perfect for espresso, not for press at all.
Read manual, tried calibration, no luck.
Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
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Posted Mon Feb 10, 2014, 8:23am
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Bounce Said:

I just got one last week.
Unpacked it, assemble, simple.
Put the setting on coarse to use with my french press first while I read the manual, and it came out super fine, perfect for espresso, not for press at all.
Read manual, tried calibration, no luck.
Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

Posted February 9, 2014 link

Which model did you get?
Which burr set is in it?

Give this a try and see what happens

While running the grinder, move the coarse adjustment all the way to the top setting and let the grinder run for a second.  Remove the grounds hopper and examine the grounds (our them out on a clean sheet of white paper).

Put the grounds hopper back in and While running the grinder, move the coarse adjustment all the way to the bottomsetting and let the grinder run for a second.  Remove the grounds hopper and examine the grounds (pour them out on your clean sheet of white paper next to the previous batch).

Are the grounds identical or is your second run with the grinder set all the way to the coarsest setting different.

If you can take pics and post them of both examples (finest and coarsest) this would be helpful.

It would also be helpful if you started a new thread if you think you may have an issue as this one is pretty post heavy and may get overlooked by those who could be helpful to your problem
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Posted Mon Feb 10, 2014, 9:05am
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Just curious as to what this could be...

I took out the top burr to clean, calibrated a turn or two finer (with machine on), and did the 'adding shims' mod. It seems to grind okay but the VARIO is exessively louder than it was before and vibrates a lot more.

If this is an issue, i'd like to resolve it before it gets worse.
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Posted Thu Feb 20, 2014, 9:28am
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This is the best of times grinder and the worst of times grinder.  Mine will work and then decide to self adjust and then work fine for a while again.  It's like you need to constantly re orientate everything and you can feel it in the lever when it wants to head south.   Then you need to put pressure on the lever to keep it up.  If you take everything out and start over, it's fine for a while again.  I'm so happy with how it grinds, but do hate that it never stays on track for long.
**UPDATE***
Just to add, I just emailed Baratza and I think before they read my email, they popped a set of lever holders in the mail.  My first world problem worst of times just got better--thanks Baratza
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