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Posted Tue Jul 22, 2008, 8:00am
Subject: Lelit grinders -- PL53 and PL043
 

I keep hearing about how good these grinders are for the price, but haven't seen any formal reviews on them (here or anywhere else). Obviously the PL53 is out of stock at 1st Line and it seems that will be the case for at least another month or so, maybe longer. The PL043 is in stock at LatteMaestro and I was curious if anyone knew the difference between the two grinders?

I was going to get a Rocky, but with the recent price increase, I think I'll stay away. My other option is the Ascaso I-Mini, but those are out of stock everywhere, too.

Any thoughts on the PL043?
Here's where it's in stock. Click Here (www.lattemaestro.com)

Thanks.
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Posted Wed Jul 23, 2008, 6:47am
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le lit grinder?  not impressed.

It seems that one MUST spend about $300 retail to get a usable grinder for espresso.

I used a gaggia MDF for years.  and it is about $300.00

also look at used.  a grinder is a motor and a switch -- that's all.
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Posted Wed Jul 23, 2008, 7:34am
Subject: Re: Lelit grinders -- PL53 and PL043
 

xdavez Said:

a grinder is a motor and a switch -- that's all.

Posted July 23, 2008 link

The last time I looked, most decent grinders had cutting burrs in addition to the motor and switch.  
I have used a LaPavoni PGC clone (Maximo) to great success, I originally purchased for $120 new

Vaneli's has a stepped conical grinder with what appears to be the trespade burrset (same as the PGC) for ~$170 (Click THIS)
It should be capable of grinding for good espresso....not the most robust build but probably good enough.

 
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Posted Wed Jul 23, 2008, 12:28pm
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Jon, that appears to be the same grinder the OP was asking about.

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Posted Wed Jul 23, 2008, 12:57pm
Subject: Re: Lelit grinders -- PL53 and PL043
 

Here is a link to a Home-Barista thread regarding the LeLit PL53. It has lots of user opinions based on their experience. Hopefully it will help. LeLit Thread
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Posted Wed Jul 23, 2008, 1:17pm
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[It seems that one MUST spend about $300 retail to get a usable grinder for espresso.]

Not so sure about that, I have an I-Mini and it works fine with my Astra Pro, paid $229 for it.  Check out seattlecoffeegear.com, they seem to have it in stock, that is where I bought mine.
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Posted Wed Jul 23, 2008, 2:05pm
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You can also get an Astra Cunill Tranquilo for  $235.

http://sovranastore.com/esgrin.html
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Posted Thu Jul 24, 2008, 11:39am
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Can you say why you are not impressed with it? What specifically don't you like? I too am looking at it instead of the higher-priced Rocky. The small amount of reviews on home barista indicate it has an easy to clean chute, is stepless and doserless ( a plus for small users like me) and doesn't require any user calibration or mod (also good for people like me). It supposedly has less clumping than Rocky. I really didn't see anything negative about it.

My concern is the lack of more reviews plus if there is only one distributor, isn't that risky in terms of repair and parts (all opinions welcome). What if that guy went out of business, for instance?
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Posted Thu Jul 24, 2008, 4:35pm
Subject: Re: Lelit grinders -- PL53 and PL043
 

I have been using the PL53 daily for 7 months now. (3-5 doubles a day.) It has been very well behaved. I grind into a small stainless pitcher (to measure by volume) then fill the basket. I have not had to do any 'clump busting' of any kind. (I suspect this is mostly due to the grounded metal spout.) The burr carrier however is plastic and there can be some static build up in there, breaking off to form a larger boulder size clump now and then, but this is maybe after a week so time to clean the spout.  (Also, I don't use oily beans so I have no idea what might happen if you put 'sticky stuff' through it. ;^) What's not to like? a bit noisy, stops conversation, it's light and so I push it against the backstop to push the botton. $229 for espresso grind that you don't have to stir with a needle, I think it does a great job. Biggest problem with this grinder: it is out of stock! C'mon Jim, just go over and hand carry them back!
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Posted Fri Jul 25, 2008, 10:04am
Subject: Re: Lelit grinders -- PL53 and PL043
 

Dink0617 Said:

[It seems that one MUST spend about $300 retail to get a usable grinder for espresso.]

Not so sure about that, I have an I-Mini and it works fine with my Astra Pro, paid $229 for it.  Check out seattlecoffeegear.com, they seem to have it in stock, that is where I bought mine.

Posted July 23, 2008 link


Same here re the Ascaso i-Mini. I have two of them & paid $229 for each one. I bought my second one for my second espresso machine (both espresso machines are Gaggia Factory 106 levers). I'm very happy with the i-Mini's compact size, attractive appearance, all metal exterior (all metal, other than the hoppper which is plastic, of course), conical burrs, steppless design, price and performance. I bought my first one from 1st Line. They were out of stock on the i-Mini when time came to buy my second, so I bought it at Seattlecoffeegear.com instead. Had to pay sales tax there, as I'm in Washington State, but it was in stock and they got it to me almost overnight. Pleased with both vendors and especially pleased with the i-Mini.
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