Your not going to get tape in your brew because the tape is outside of the burr chamber,but the tape will tear up and jam the threads.My rocky seems to be pretty tight.I can see how a finer thread would be good though.By all means get a Mazzer if you can but based on the many many many threads I have followed on the subject I would not expect to see a major differance in the coffee but the Mazzer would be faster and faster is a good thing.And based on people saying that the Mazzers ,and Macaps grind [Fluffier] I figure that the burrs are even more stable than the Rocky or Cunil {Finer threads ?}You fluff pillows,leave it to us coffee geeks to fluff coffee.
Faster is a good thing. OK. eBay has used Mazzers, but few at the price I can get for Rocky nouveau. Fluff is good. OK. I use foam pillows. No need to fluff.
I am leaning toward continuing my espresso journey at its current rate: upgrade to a Rocky. When I wish to journey onward, I can sell the Rocky or give it to a friend who is at an earlier point on the journey &/or has less disposable income.
Once I upgrade to whatever, I'll give my Maestro Plus a tune-up and dispense as described above.
If anyone had told me 3 years ago that I would be willing to shell out so many bucks on such a quest, to be so critical of an extraction or drip I'd have been ASTOUNDED! I may have to create a "coffee maker chapel" in my kitchen.
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...based on the many many many threads I have followed on the subject I would not expect to see a major differance in the coffee but the Mazzer would be faster and faster is a good thing.
Nice passive aggresive insult there Ben.And of course we never know how good a shot our fellow coffeegeeks are pulling.Im sure that some of us are making very good espresso and know it ,but Im sure that some aren't ,and dont..Not sure where I fit for sure .But Im sure you do. Im just saying that bassed on what I have read on this forum ,written by people who seem to have used all the various grinders ,that if you dont feel like spending the money on a new Mazzer and really dont want to look for a deal on a used one that going with the Rocky is a very good compromize.I have only used tha Rocky and the Maestro Plus.The Rocky is a very big step up from the Maestro.
The new Le'Lit PL53 costs less than a Rocky and has some nice features and pretty good reviews so far. That's if price is a main concern which for a lot of people it is. Haven't used one personally so I don't know how it would compare to a Rocky or Mazzer with grind quality.
javanj Senior Member Joined: 14 May 2006 Posts: 107 Location: Metro NYC Expertise: I love coffee
Espresso: Gaggia New Coffee, La Pavoni... Grinder: Rocky & Maestro Plus Drip: Melitta pour over & Gevalia...
Posted Thu Feb 21, 2008, 8:08pm Subject: Re: Rocky & Teflon Tape V LeLitPL53
From Home-Barista.com "The only all stainless steel, polished body, doserless, conical burr espresso grinder with stepless adjustment for under $250.00. Can we say more? This grinder was designed for grinding for espresso. Although the PL53 can be used for other coffee brewing methods, the turning of the knob on the stepless adjustment can be cumbersome to rotate many times for different brew methods. This is why we recommend the grinder be utilized for one brew method only."
I like the LeLit. The shute appears to be metal, rather than the plastic. Reduces static. But I don't think I want to go stepless at this point & this review recommends it for espresso. In the morning I am stumbling around. Simplicity is a must. I drink a breve' before work and sometimes make coffee which I take to work. Until I discover my thus-far-hidden fortune, my counter can barely accomodate one grinder! [see previous posts re coffee chapel]
javanj Senior Member Joined: 14 May 2006 Posts: 107 Location: Metro NYC Expertise: I love coffee
Espresso: Gaggia New Coffee, La Pavoni... Grinder: Rocky & Maestro Plus Drip: Melitta pour over & Gevalia...
Posted Sun Mar 23, 2008, 9:29pm Subject: Re: Rocky & Teflon Tape
The Rocky has arrived. I've been drinking coffee all weekend! The upgrade has brought my enjoyment of espresso to a whole, new level. I made pretty decent shots with the Maestro Plus for 2 years. But the Rocky is so consistent and really brings out the nuance of the coffee. Yes, those burrs wobble - I can hear it. but I'm using this machine for more than espresso. I stop-dialed until I heard metal (I forget the number - I don't plan on Turkish coffee in the near future). I then did the same forward. I found that 15 seems to work well for Carlo, my Gaggia, with Black Cat. 32 -35 for El Diablo drip. This is a 15+ pound machine. Extremely solid and oh, so quiet. I even like just looking at it. Looking at it while drinking coffee is even better. I was conflicted between a used Mazzer or a new Rocky or Tranquilo until I saw a doser Rocky at Chef Central. Chef Central is in Paramus, NJ & Hartsdale, NY. The store will special order many items. And each year, mailing list subscribers get a 20% discount. So I called & they ordered a doserless Rocky 20% off. I am very happy.
I appreciate all the postings and research available on this site. It has been very helpful on my espresso journey. Many of us begin our journey slowly. It may be due to caution or finance. In my case, both. But it is a wonderful journey. For all those embarking on their own journey: get the best grinder you can afford. The espresso-maker is second to the grinder.
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