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Posted Sat Jan 26, 2008, 6:00pm
Subject: Rebadged Mazzer Super Jolly?
 

Click Here (www.1st-line.com)

This looks a lot like a Super Jolly to me.. the price is right at 475 the way the market seems to be going..

I wonder if this Spanish brand will start to get more consideration the way prices seem to be going.. I have never really heard of them until I saw the Green Club ME 1-Group in a restaurant.. It sure is a good looking machine.

Thoughts?
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Posted Sat Jan 26, 2008, 7:36pm
Subject: Re: Rebadged Mazzer Super Jolly?
 

Interesting - it sure has some similar features  (cast aluminum, 64mm burrs, weight approx. the same) and body shape.  I wouldn't be surprised if it's another rebadged Mazzer and if it is, that's a great price.

Edit - I noticed that the picture at 1st-Line seems to be the only picture I could find on that grinder.  It might be easier to tell if there were more pictures, but it's either a knockoff (not very likely I would say) or a rebadged SJ with some different parts (doser, doser handle, adjustment collar, etc.).  EPNW also sells this grinder.
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Posted Sat Jan 26, 2008, 9:34pm
Subject: Re: Rebadged Mazzer Super Jolly?
 

http://www.laranzato.com/grinders.html

there is a bigger version of the same picture on that site..

your guess is as good as mine.. the carrier does look different, but if it screws in similar to the mazzer carrier it shouldn't be an issue.

it's pretty good looking also.

i want one.
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Posted Sat Jan 26, 2008, 9:43pm
Subject: Re: Rebadged Mazzer Super Jolly?
 

Grind adjustment collar looks wimpy?

 
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Posted Sat Jan 26, 2008, 9:45pm
Subject: Re: Rebadged Mazzer Super Jolly?
 

farmroast Said:

Grind adjustment collar looks wimpy?

Posted January 26, 2008 link

i don't think so.. I don't know.. you can't really get a good look at it.
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Posted Sat Jan 26, 2008, 9:46pm
Subject: Re: Rebadged Mazzer Super Jolly?
 

If you search via Yahoo or Google you can find it even cheaper but I don't know how reputable some of those vendors are.  I know what you mean...I'm tempted myself.  I keep telling myself that I don't need another grinder but I want one lol.
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Posted Sat Jan 26, 2008, 9:49pm
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http://www.redrockroasters.com/equipment.html

$400!

i am so close..
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Posted Sat Jan 26, 2008, 9:58pm
Subject: Re: Rebadged Mazzer Super Jolly?
 

I couldn't find out how much shipping is at that place.  This grinder is really getting me interested but as much as I tried, I couldn't find one picture of it that's not the one shown at the vendor sites.  Maybe it's still pretty new?
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Posted Sat Jan 26, 2008, 10:12pm
Subject: Re: Rebadged Mazzer Super Jolly?
 

My guess is  that they are not made by mazzer Italy(but not sure).  I have several 2007 Majors and the body style didn't change on them or Jolly. This is a much different body and doser
found this in the co.   About Us but not sure this pertains to the grinder or just their espresso machines.
OUR MACHINES
We have commissioned one of Italy's oldest and most capable manufacturers to produce a line of machines to fit the specific needs of today's USA market. In a 100,000 sq. ft. facility near Milan, a group of 120 skilled engineers and technicians are making sure that each Laranzato machine is built to strict UL and NSF-4 requirements. No machine leaves the factory before it is subjected to a real-life test.

 
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Posted Sat Jan 26, 2008, 10:33pm
Subject: Re: Rebadged Mazzer Super Jolly?
 

After looking at the Laranzato a little more, it does have a different body shape in the back where it curves outward at the bottom.  At first glance it looks like a Super Jolly in some ways, but maybe it's just a look alike.  Has some nice features, though.
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