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Posted Sat Jan 26, 2008, 10:48pm
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My concern would be that he 200-300 cheaper price would mostly mean  cheaper burr carriers and adjustment collar the real strength of a Mazzer

 
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Posted Sat Jan 26, 2008, 11:08pm
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farmroast Said:

My concern would be that he 200-300 cheaper price would mostly mean  cheaper burr carriers and adjustment collar the real strength of a Mazzer

Posted January 26, 2008 link

this is true.. even if it was a compatable part, buying burr carrier and collar from epnw probably takes away most if not all of your 200-300 savings.. lord knows mazzer parts aren't cheap
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Posted Sat Jan 26, 2008, 11:23pm
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It's hard to tell how it's built since there aren't many pictures of this grinder other than the one from the side.  I've noticed that many of the Mazzer rebadged models are more expensive than the Mazzer itself.  Too early to form an opinion on this one but maybe someone will take a risk and buy one to review.
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Posted Sun Jan 27, 2008, 7:40am
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Jeff_K Said:

It's hard to tell how it's built since there aren't many pictures of this grinder other than the one from the side.  I've noticed that many of the Mazzer rebadged models are more expensive than the Mazzer itself.  Too early to form an opinion on this one but maybe someone will take a risk and buy one to review.

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I just sent an email to 1st line with some questions as to quality compared to a Mazzer SJ. Will post the answers. farmroast

 
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Posted Mon Jan 28, 2008, 12:09pm
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I found out some more info. Yes they are made to look like a Mazzer but the body is made of plastic and the grinder is made in China.

 
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Posted Mon Jan 28, 2008, 2:08pm
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Hmm that's odd...the product info says it's cast aluminum, even on the Laranzato site.  A plastic bodied grinder for almost $500 is pretty crazy if you ask me, but I guess it's possible.
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Posted Mon Jan 28, 2008, 5:42pm
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Jeff_K Said:

Hmm that's odd...the product info says it's cast aluminum, even on the Laranzato site.  A plastic bodied grinder for almost $500 is pretty crazy if you ask me, but I guess it's possible.

Posted January 28, 2008 link

Info was from 1st line email. "It was designed with the Mazzer in mind. The difference is that the body is made of plastic, and the grinder is made in China."
There may be some cast aluminum to hold the guts together encased in plastic. This might be where the "Mazzer like" burr sets some have complained about from ebay are coming from.

 
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Posted Mon Jan 28, 2008, 6:27pm
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Yeah, I don't doubt that Jim or the others there know what they're selling.  It's just strange that the description makes it sound like the entire body is cast aluminum since there's no mention of a plastic body (or made in China) anywhere I found this model being sold.  It's not bad looking in the picture, though.  Thanks for the info.
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Posted Mon Jan 28, 2008, 6:47pm
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I agree it's interesting they don't mention it and it looks ok as from a distance as do most things made in China. But I'm sure once we'd unscrew the collar we'd gasp. Hell we'd probably gasp as soon as we opened the box! Is this the first commercial euro like espresso grinder made in China I wonder?

 
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Posted Mon Jan 28, 2008, 11:21pm
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I am going to go to the restaurant I went to that runs the Laranzato and see if they have a matching grinder.. knowing this restaurant I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't have a grinder at all.. I was shocked they had an espresso machine.

if they have the grinder I'll make them let me look at it.
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