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anthaicafe
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Posted Fri Mar 7, 2014, 7:52pm
Subject: Arabica or Robusta?
 

For coffee gourmet, it is easy for them to know which is which when they taste. Which do you prefer? Do you think that mixing Arabica and Robusta is a good way?

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Posted Fri Mar 7, 2014, 11:07pm
Subject: Re: Arabica or Robusta?
 

Really? You are a professional, and that is the question you ask?

The question is without merit. You could not possibly ask a broader question about coffee types. Being that Viet Nam is generally considered the home to some of the very worst Robusta coffee grown in the world, you should realize that. Sure, there are a few good Robustas out there, and while I have only tasted two or three, they were all from India. I am not trying to degrade your country or its recent efforts to grow quality coffee (from what I have read).

But really, the question you asked reminded me of one I use to ask my students when they became troublesome with nonsensical questions of their own:
"Did you bring your lunch today, or did you take the bus to school?"

Any answer is without real value because the question had none.

 
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Posted Sat Mar 8, 2014, 9:00pm
Subject: Re: Arabica or Robusta?
 

Since the OP is from Vietnam, where a lot of Robusta is grown, that is probably why he is asking.

I can certainly taste Robusta, and do like it on occasion when it is of high quality and roasted well.

 
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Posted Sun Mar 9, 2014, 6:30pm
Subject: Re: Arabica or Robusta?
 

It always bothers me when someone new posts a question and gets treated like the stuff we wipe off our shoes.

Somewhere along the line, the idea that if you don't have something nice to say, take your fingers off the key board and go read another post should have been drilled into most of us here.

Professionals come at all levels. Just because someone makes their living with coffee, doesn't make them the world Barista Champion.

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There are a fair number of places out there that mix Arabica and Robusta and they do it for different reasons. One I know of does it just to raise the caffeine content. They sell it as a 'high caffeine' coffee and don't claim it is their best tasting. Some do it because Robusta is often cheaper and it is a way go cut costs. Others do it because they have succeeding in finding a blend that works.

Personally, I prefer Arabica. I like that it has less caffeine, means I can have more. I like that people have worked with processing and terrior and roasting so that I can can get a different experience everywhere I go.

 
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Posted Sun Mar 9, 2014, 6:37pm
Subject: Re: Arabica or Robusta?
 

sweaner Said:

Since the OP is from Vietnam, where a lot of Robusta is grown, that is probably why he is asking.

I can certainly taste Robusta, and do like it on occasion when it is of high quality and roasted well.

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Absolutely! It gets a bad too bad a wrap sometimes. Every now and then I like a good robusta.

 
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Posted Mon Mar 10, 2014, 9:33am
Subject: Re: Arabica or Robusta?
 

Yes, I can definitely see where my reply was somewhat harsh. I hesitated in replying for a bit, but my feeling at the time was that the OP works for a company that roasts and sells coffee, including Arabica and Robusta offerings. I hesitated and did not use the descriptive term "Spam" in referring to her post, but felt that the post was much the same as if I had posted,  'Do you prefer the {xxx}coffee roaster or the {coffee roaster from the company I personally work for}. The use of the logo of the company he works for as a profile pic, using the company name as her screen name, and her bio stating, "We, SAIGON AN THAI COFFEE JSC., one of leading coffee manufacturers in Vietnam..." on her profile page were what set me off. It just seemed she was tap dancing around a commercial post minefield without actual commercial detonation. Overreacting on my part? Possibly. Wouldn't be the first time. If I had posted a coffee-roaster comparison in the same way he did, would I have been warned or the post deleted? I would think so, yes. Should I be? Also, yes. Is it fair for others to post in that way? Not my call. I am not a mod here (and likely for good reason).

Forum Rules State, "No commercial posting of any nature will be tolerated;.."

I hope my response was not taken as prejudicial towards the poster nor towards her country.

Mods, feel free to pull my post if it is out of line. And no hard feelings about it.

And to Thu Pham, the OP, if you feel you have some high quality Robusta, feel free to contact me privately and arrange to send me some and I will review it or give you my opinion privately, your choice.

ADDENDUM:

Just as another set of data points, up to now the OP has made 5 posts here on CG. This thread we are in and four others. Of those four, here are quotations from the OP from three of them:

1
Topic: Espresso Cheesecake Brownie Sundaes
Quote: Thank you for your recipe. I will try this one with An Thái café

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Topic: What & where to buy fresh roasted coffee beans
Quote:  I live in Vietnam, so my favourite brand is An Thai Cafe. An Thai Cafe provide various kinds of roasted coffee beans, such as Arabica, Robusta, Special (one seed only in a fruit), Weasel aroma (fermented to have the same flavour with Civet Coffee). For more information, you all can visit An Thai' page www.anthaigroup.com

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Topic: Favorite Everyday Coffee
Quote: Vietnamese coffee is more and more popular with Robusta in the world.

4
This one feature her company's logo as the profile pic and the same logo in the body of the post.

Let's call it a preponderance of evidence.

 
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Posted Sat Mar 15, 2014, 12:20pm
Subject: Re: Arabica or Robusta?
 

I remember the struggles I had trying to speak in a language other than my own. Most of the time I sounded silly, other times unintentionally rude or without finesse. Worst when I tried to write. Maybe English is her 3rd language, behind French. Point is, I give them benefit of the doubt when reading posts such as this one.

Blending robustas with arabicas can be a delicate matter but one worth trying. They can enhance the body of espresso, making the crema thick, rich, loaded with the notes of the arabicas with which it was blended. That's the good. The bad is they can over power the other coffees, making the blend unpalatable.

 
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Posted Wed Apr 9, 2014, 12:11pm
Subject: Re: Arabica or Robusta?
 

Oh man, interesting.
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Posted Thu Apr 10, 2014, 5:35am
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Plaximus Said:

Oh man, interesting.

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Interesting??? jajaja :P

 
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Posted Sat Apr 12, 2014, 7:25am
Subject: Re: Arabica or Robusta?
 

Arabica OR Robusta isn't much of a question.  There aren't many, if any, Robustas which are good  enough to use stand-alone or blended solely with other Robustas available in North America.  In short, on their own they aren't very good.  

Robustas are often used in inexpensive blends because some Robusta characteristics mimic freshness. And of course, because they're cheap.  

You find Robustas in some okay blends, but not from many Artisanal roasters. So unless you're purchasing greens, roasting and blending yourself, the question of whether you like some Robusta in your blend comes down to a preference for some canned blends and/or supermarket blends over others.  What with average annual temperatures in Hell on the rise, it's probably going to be a long time before my next canned or supermarket bean purchases.  

Like Randy's, my spam meter is reading "11."  Language isn't the problem.  The OP is selling more than a viewpoint.  

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