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branmuffin17
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Posted Wed Feb 26, 2014, 3:14pm
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Thanks everyone for your input and conversation...oh, and by the way, on the subject, meant to put a question mark, not an exclamation point...hahaha.

Steam boiler element is 1250 watts, and group boiler is 800 watts.  Couldn't tell what percentage of "on" time is active heating...and I have no clue (obviously) how this machine could be drawing so much electricity, especially with all of your feedback...but I just really can't think of anything else that would have changed my electric bill so much.

Machine heats up fully in about 10 minutes...group first, then steam boiler.

Guess maybe it's not the machine...but what the heck else could it be???
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Posted Wed Feb 26, 2014, 5:22pm
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branmuffin17 Said:

Guess maybe it's not the machine...but what the heck else could it be???

Posted February 26, 2014 link

Tell your wife it's her hair dryer and curling iron and see how far you get with that one!  :-0

 
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Posted Wed Feb 26, 2014, 5:33pm
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Use a digital timer. You can set it for separate times weekdays vs weekends. Look for a 20A model.
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Posted Wed Feb 26, 2014, 6:02pm
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CHenry:  I am using the specific La Spaziale digital timer made for my machine...I described the general schedule for both weekday and weekend (and changes I made) in my first post...

frcn:  What did I do to you, for you to want that for me?  Yikes!  And anyway, I chose and bought the specific hair dryer and curling iron(s) for her, so she'd likely just throw the blame back on me, hahaha!
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Posted Thu Feb 27, 2014, 9:10am
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It is hard to see +50% and more of the electric bill.

Just for the heck of it I went to my account at SCE. With my machine, the hourly energy use is about 200 w/h or two 100w lightbulbs on constantly.
We had an average power use yesterday of 2.29 KWH of energy use, or 2,290 watts an hour. The espresso machine is less than 1/10 of the power used yesterday.

Is 1/10 a lot of power, well I suppose but is only 1/10 more, not 50% of the daily power use, as it would need to be to cause the bill to add 50% to your bill.

To take this another step, the monthly bill for my electric last month (my machine was on then too, ) was $444. If the espresso machine was on the whole time (and it was) and it is 1/10 of my power used (and that is typical) then the total cost to run the machine was $44 a month or just over about $1.47 a day (44/30). And remember, the more power you use, the higher rate you are paying per KW. At my power use, we are in the top tier of rates. If your use is not in the top tier, your cost will be less per day with  the same usage.

In addition, you are not on 24/7, rather, you are on only 6 hours a day or 1/4 the time my machine is on so your cost per day is likely in the $0.50 to $0.75 per day range due to the more power used at warm up and the dual boilers and dual heaters.

 
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Posted Thu Feb 27, 2014, 11:24am
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There was a story related to me of a local resident who bought a new appliance and could not figure out why the electric bill had gone up to 150% of the previous months. After an investigation it was found that there was a broken pipe under the house and their well pump had been running overtime for a few weeks. A dramatic increase in consumption in KWH's demands a thorough inspection.

 
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Posted Thu Feb 27, 2014, 12:00pm
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Hey frcn, in my case, the electric bill has dropped back to what I would consider normal levels for the most recent bill.

Wayne, your electric bill is crazy!  Your house must light up like a beacon at night!!!
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Posted Thu Feb 27, 2014, 8:34pm
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Don't forget that is for the shop too. 2 refers, 2 freezers, espresso machine 2 ht systems on about 18 hours a day, kitchen lights (9 can lights) a few msl other lights, then the shop, 2 double 8 foot fl lights, two Marc vapor lights, air compressor, stereo, hand grinders, buffers, table saw, router table and stuff then there is the home heater blower, oh BTW the LP bill runs around $400 a month in the winter

You know, it is just stuff! LOL :D

 
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Posted Thu Feb 27, 2014, 10:57pm
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calblacksmith Said:

Don't forget that is for the shop too..... air compressor, stereo, hand grinders, buffers, table saw, router table and stuff then there is the home heater blower, oh BTW the LP bill runs around $400 a month in the winter

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I turn the stereo off in the garage when I leave, but I do leave the table saw running. It keeps the mice out of the garage.    :-O

 
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Grinder: Azkoyen Capriccio, Major
Vac Pot: 40s era Silex
Drip: Msl. Com. brewers
Roaster: gave it a try, decided no
Posted Fri Feb 28, 2014, 7:20am
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frcn Said:

I turn the stereo off in the garage when I leave, but I do leave the table saw running. It keeps the mice out of the garage.    :-O

Posted February 27, 2014 link

I'll give that a try, those little buggers do a lot of damage let alone the poop they leave everyplace!

 
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