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Nurk2
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Posted Mon Oct 7, 2013, 5:49am
Subject: My first pull with new Gaggio Classic (with pictures)
 

Here it is. My Gaggia Classic w/MDF grinder finally arrived (my first real machine), and after futsing around and setting it up I finally managed to start pulling shots. This is my third try at about 22 seconds. It's hard to see, but it's just about at the 1 oz. line on the glass on the left.

Tasted good - and the one's I've made subsequent to this tasted even better - but I'm using Lavazza. I like my regular coffee to be more along the lines of a French roast. Any suggestions for an espresso roast that will get me closer to that flavor?

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Posted Mon Oct 7, 2013, 8:43am
Subject: Re: My first pull with new Gaggio Classic (with picture)
 

I wouldn't knock out all kinds of roasts based on having lavazza or whatever (probably stale). I typically don't like french roast and the darkest i've had without cringing is RedBird Espresso. That would be a good starting point considering how cheap (but high quality) it is.

It also comes down to the age old question. Do you like winy, fruity coffee or chocolately?
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Posted Mon Oct 7, 2013, 8:53am
Subject: Re: My first pull with new Gaggio Classic (with picture)
 

Congrats:-)
Fresh coffee will be vastly better!
I recommend that you take a look at the roasting chart at Sweet Maria's, it will help to understand roast/flavor profiles better.

 
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Posted Mon Oct 7, 2013, 8:58am
Subject: Re: My first pull with new Gaggio Classic (with picture)
 

You may like dark roast in coffee.  In espresso, it tends to ruin flavors, over roasted and burned.  In addition dark is often oily and a mess for the grinder as you grind finer.  Agree that Redbird is a great starting place, and good to continue with :)

 
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Posted Mon Oct 7, 2013, 11:32am
Subject: Re: My first pull with new Gaggio Classic (with picture)
 

Hey all - thanks for looking/suggestions. Here's another picture of it cupped.

And thanks for suggestions on the coffee. Like I said, I prefer French roast in my regular coffee. On the Sweet Maria's chart it's probably approaching a 15. I'm not trying to make espresso with my French roast.

I'm not sure what flavor that would be - I think, perhaps, more of a very dry red wine. I like richness - mouthfeel. And I'm getting good mouthfeel.

Here's something, one flavor I really do not like is dark chocolate. Odd, eh? I like espresso, and black coffee, and I don't mind bitter veggies like spinach and swiss chard  - particularly with butter. I've been known to eat extra-sharp cheddar cheese without crackers. I like brie. I hate limburger.

But dark chocolate (and I've had some excellent, "single bean"-type stuff) tastes terrible to me, like "I-wish-I-could-spit-this-out" terrible.

So there you go. It's a pretty narrow range - but when I find what I like I really like it. The Red Bird sounds good (perhaps anything really fresh at this point would be good). Do you think it fits my flavor profile?

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Posted Mon Oct 7, 2013, 2:27pm
Subject: Re: My first pull with new Gaggio Classic (with picture)
 

Like others have said, I wouldn't buy based on roast profile. French Roast is basically burnt coffee. I'm guessing you like the chocolate, caramel type of espresso's with low acidity. Here are a couple of my favorites along those lines:
- Forty Weight PYT Espresso
- Klatch Belle Espresso
- Metropolis Redline

There are many many other fav's, but I'm too lazy to paste the links in here. But these are a few favorites that could fit your profile.

edit - just saw that you dislike chocolate. Not sure how I missed that. But in order to find your espresso profile, you'll need to drink a wide variety of espresso. It's the only way to know what you like and what you dislike and you may find that you actually like stuff you thought you didn't. Whatever you buy, make sure it's freshly roasted and enjoy experimenting. When I first started out, my coffee rotation was massive until I could narrow my circle down to what I liked.

 
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Posted Mon Oct 7, 2013, 3:07pm
Subject: Re: My first pull with new Gaggio Classic (with picture)
 

sherpakid Said:

edit - just saw that you dislike chocolate. Not sure how I missed that.

Posted October 7, 2013 link

Actually. I LOVE chocolate - milk chocolate. Like a candy bar. I hate DARK chocolate - like the practically straight cocoa.

Thank you so much for the recommendations. Frankly, all of these look EXCELLENT!

 
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Posted Tue Oct 8, 2013, 6:00am
Subject: Re: My first pull with new Gaggio Classic (with picture)
 

I am a fan of Klatch Belle and WBC, the Fair Trade blend, not so much, not so much in fact that I will not buy it. Nothing wrong if you like that flavor profile but not for me. I tend to favor dark, bass and chocolate flavors, Fair trade has a ...... sour to me flavor that I don't like.

I can't help with the other two above but again, I do like RedBird too. YMMV!

 
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Nurk2
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Posted Tue Oct 8, 2013, 6:05am
Subject: Re: My first pull with new Gaggio Classic (with picture)
 

A little update.... I took a look at a lot of different beans. Thank you for your suggestions. I pulled the trigger on the Metropolis Redline. Looks perfect. I also dialed back on the amount I was using for a double, and that smoothed things out a bit.

 
If it sounds good, it is good.
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Posted Tue Oct 8, 2013, 7:39am
Subject: Re: My first pull with new Gaggio Classic (with picture)
 

Hey Cal - Thanks. The RedBird is definitely next!

 
If it sounds good, it is good.
~ Duke Ellington

If you sound bad on Squire through a Peavey Bandit, you're not going to sound good on a PRS through a Badcat.

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