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Ristrettolover
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Posted Tue May 28, 2013, 8:33pm
Subject: My buying experience today...wat.
 

Ordered a double ristretto and get given a double shot latte. When I complain, I get told by the girl that "that's not what a double ristretto is in this café". Wat. There's arguments about how to best make a ristretto, like either cutting the extraction early or changing grind fineness and tamping pressure, but it's universally agreed that it's black and shorter than espresso. She redid it and just gave me an espresso (which is fine - I usually order doppios or espressos the most at the moment), but I could scarcely believe that, coming from a coffee shop that does produce very good ristrettos, the guy who owns it knows his coffee, has two blends, a La Marzocco Linea Classic and Mazzer Macinacaffe grinders.

Anyway, rant over.
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Posted Tue May 28, 2013, 10:54pm
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It just goes to show that i's very difficult to get good staff.  :-J

 
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Posted Wed May 29, 2013, 8:05am
Subject: Re: My buying experience today...wat.
 

Yours is the normal result of a request that is not full of milk, I have heard the same "that is not how WE make (name your drink here) " excuse more times than I can count.

 
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Ristrettolover
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Posted Wed May 29, 2013, 8:27am
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Tell me about it. Even my favourite espresso bar has some baristas (at a university so lots of part-time and therefore lots of baristas) that can turn a potential god-shot blend shot into a shot so terrible it's actually hard to finish.

I didn't push it too far (she tried lecturing me that I meant to ask for "a doppio, which is a double espresso"), but I was thinking "you can't just change the definition of a coffee because you didn't know how to make it/what it was" lol
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Posted Wed May 29, 2013, 10:24am
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LOL,
Yes, I have, many times asked for a drink and when the suddenly lost expression appears on the face of the "barista" I ask if they know what I am asking and most do not so I explain it to them and even then, most get it wrong so I quit buying coffee at shops I don't know or know that they .... do it wrong :D

 
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Posted Sat Jun 1, 2013, 7:59pm
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tell me about it :(. had this experience before so if i wanted to order something special or not usual, I usually look for the baristas that i know have worked at the coffee shop the longest. If i do not see him, well its a latte or cappuccino day for me :)

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Posted Fri Jun 7, 2013, 12:23am
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I recently went to a cafe in London often touted as the serving the best coffee you can get in this city of over 10 million. Confident about where I was I ordered a ristretto. The barista measured in the dose and the coffee began to extract. About half way through the shot, he pulled the cup away from underneath the group and let the rest of the espresso shot fall into the drip tray and handed me the 10mls or so of ristretto extracted in 10 seconds. I was shocked, more than anything because I thought I was in the best cafe in London/UK. So there you have it - a ristretto in famous Monmouth coffee. Avoid!
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Ristrettolover
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Posted Fri Jun 7, 2013, 7:47pm
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Yeah, I usually do that too. This espresso bar on campus is my favourite coffee, but you have to check what barista is on, otherwise they can butcher an espresso or doppio easily (don't even think about asking for a ristretto or lungo).

Hahaha! Although, to be fair, that's really the only way commercial coffee shops can produce ristrettos. It's not like they can change the grind fineness for every customer. And unless they got orders for ristrettos often enough that it passed a cost-benefit analysis to but a whole new set of grinders x blend variations just for ristrettos, it wouldn't happen. Alas, I think ristrettos are a shot best left to the home barista :(
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Posted Fri Jun 7, 2013, 7:50pm
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(And lungos too).
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Posted Fri Jun 7, 2013, 8:17pm
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alas you are probably right. i did have other expectations though since we are talking about what's supposed to be one of the best proper cafes in the uk.
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