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LKing
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Posted Wed Mar 27, 2013, 11:36am
Subject: New to forum, and sharing a great coffee experience!
 

Greetings :-)

I've been lurking around the forum for a bit doing some research on espresso machines, and finally signed up. I think I'm starting to become a bit of a coffee snob, lol.

So, I've been doing research on machines as I mentioned, but also grinders (I'd been using a cheapy blade grinder forever). There seems to be a ton of great espresso machines out there but I was constrained by (1) not having enough counter space, and (2) not wanting to spend a bunch. I came across a number of posts on the fantastic little Aeropress and after reading a ton of reviews and peoples experiences I ordered one on Monday.

Now back to the grinder. I started looking for something that was a manual hand grinder. Granted I was looking for a uniform grind, but I really enjoy making my coffee in the morning, and the naturalist / purest in me gravitated towards a hand grinder. I was also looking for something for my brother who's about to drive across Canada, doing a bunch of camping. He likes coffee, but never uses whole beans, which in my opinion is the lazy way to a mediocre cup of joe. Well, I ended up on the Hairo Mini Mill, which is a pretty compact, simple, but decent quality grinder, which I also ended up ordering on Monday.

Everything arrived today. :-) After lunch I excitedly unpacked the press and mill, read all the instructions (I know, who reads instructions right?), and put the kettle on. Well, I've got one word for the cup of coffee I made with the Hairo + Aeropress...

Heaven!!

Seriously. This is hands down the best cup of coffee I've ever made at home, and one of the better cups of coffee in general that I've had. First try. I really hope it wasn't just beginners luck! I was even using generic bold beans from zehrs.

So if you're hunting for a simple, cost effective, and high quality espresso maker or hand grinder, I highly recommend giving the Aeropress and Hairo Mini Mill a try. Regardless of mill, if you're looking for easy espresso at home, the Aeropress is the answer, and makes an incredible coffee. For the price, if you don't have one of these, just pick it up, you won't be disappointed!

Thanks for the great forums jam packed with info! Can't wait to continue my coffee education.

Cheers,

LKing
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emradguy
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Joined: 31 Mar 2011
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Espresso: Duetto II; Twist v2
Grinder: M Major, Macap M4 x2, VDD...
Drip: Espro presses; Aeropress
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Posted Wed Mar 27, 2013, 12:05pm
Subject: Re: New to forum, and sharing a great coffee experience!
 

Welcome to CG!

Glad you love your new setup.  I too have an Aeropress, and when I use it I grind by hand with an OE Lido.  I love the coffee it makes as well, and can tell you...no, you're not just lucky, you will get similar results time after time, if you stick to a consistent preparation.  

I have to say though, the great coffee the Aeropress produces, although concentrated and very strong, is NOT espresso.  Yeah, they advertise it is, but really, it's more akin to the concentrate you get from a stovetop moka pot.  There's no way a normal person can push 8 bar pressure of 200F water through a puck of finely packed grounds (only a part of the definition of espresso).

 
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Posted Wed Mar 27, 2013, 12:33pm
Subject: Re: New to forum, and sharing a great coffee experience!
 

Ah, thanks for the clarification. As much as I'm getting more picky about great tasting coffee, I'm a pretty big newb in terms of how much I actually know about making coffee.

Either way, the Aeropress / Hairo is a considerable step up from the old blade grinder and French press I've been using (which was better than the pre-ground and coffee maker before that).. I was just so surprised at how noticeably better the coffee was.

Now I just have to pick up a good frother and learn how to use it so i can actually make a latte (or at least an Aeropress latte...given your clarification ;-)
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Drip: Espro presses; Aeropress
Roaster: H-B "List of Favorites"
Posted Wed Mar 27, 2013, 12:56pm
Subject: Re: New to forum, and sharing a great coffee experience!
 

yeah, agree, the combo is a big step up from a whirlybird bean hacker and regular FP.  You might want to read the Aeropress forum too, there are a bunch of people using it inverted, so it is more like an immersion brew system, which you then press out.  There's also a lot of discussion there about water temps, dosing, extraction ratios, etc.

There are a bunch of frothers on the market. Most, I think, are used on the stovetop.  The Nespresso one is electric and isn't bad for a simple "pour in the milk and wait" product and it's really portable, but then again...you don't get the hands-on or the enjoyment and satisfaction/pride of doing it yourself.

 
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Posted Sun Apr 21, 2013, 5:29am
Subject: Re: New to forum, and sharing a great coffee experience!
 

Glad to know you got good experience on first the try. I was thinking of getting something good for my friend, and I think you found the perfect pair for you.
I know there are other products, but it's great to hear from people who got first-hand experiences.

Cheers!

 
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LKing
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Posted Sun Apr 21, 2013, 5:33pm
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A month later I'm still as impressed. The other day I had to make some coffee for my wife and to speed this up I just used my whirlybird grinder and French press, and the lower quality taste was such a dramatic difference.

Hand ground with Aeropress all the way!
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Coffeenoobie
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Posted Mon Apr 22, 2013, 8:51am
Subject: Re: New to forum, and sharing a great coffee experience!
 

The grinder you use affects the flavor in the cup.  Try the french press with the hand grinder.

 
Coffeenoobie

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Posted Fri Apr 26, 2013, 7:42am
Subject: Re: New to forum, and sharing a great coffee experience!
 

Coffeenoobie Said:

The grinder you use affects the flavor in the cup.  Try the french press with the hand grinder.

Posted April 22, 2013 link

Yeah, I was in a hurry, and also was too lazy to adjust my hand grinder for the proper size a press needs. I'll need to pick up an electric burr grinder soon. :-)
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Posted Fri Apr 26, 2013, 8:49am
Subject: Re: New to forum, and sharing a great coffee experience!
 

They are cheap enough that you could get another hand grinder for the french press.  My understanding is that the french press is less picky than espresso but still needs a good grinder.

 
Coffeenoobie

Buying advice: GRINDER GRINDER GRINDER. Don't cheap out on the grinder.

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Roaster: Nesco 1010/Behmor 1600
Posted Sun Apr 28, 2013, 6:33am
Subject: Re: New to forum, and sharing a great coffee experience!
 

Yes welcome ,you can learn a lot here and people are willing to help each other along the way. The wonderful aspect about coffee is that it will continue to satisfy,mystify,humble,and challenge you. Its been
likened to a journey and I really tend to believe thats true. Like any journey over the long haul it will test you,elate you,humble you and tire you. So dont be surprised if you find yourself asking the wife
( such patient creatures ) down the road things like " honey we need to move up to this machine or that grinder" . Once again welcome aboard.

LKing Said:

Ah, thanks for the clarification. As much as I'm getting more picky about great tasting coffee, I'm a pretty big newb in terms of how much I actually know about making coffee.

Either way, the Aeropress / Hairo is a considerable step up from the old blade grinder and French press I've been using (which was better than the pre-ground and coffee maker before that).. I was just so surprised at how noticeably better the coffee was.

Now I just have to pick up a good frother and learn how to use it so i can actually make a latte (or at least an Aeropress latte...given your clarification ;-)

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