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Posted Sun Mar 24, 2013, 9:41am
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Posted Sun Mar 24, 2013, 11:03am
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grant862 Said:

I use Trader Joe's medium roast ($4.99/lb) beans for my lattes and the taste is a 7+/10.

Personally, I'm a student w/ no income and for lattes, I can't justify the taste difference for 10oz+ lattes (virtually the same, but not quite). I calculated it, and TJ's beans are .25 cents a shot...whereas local roast is about $1.

Posted March 23, 2013 link

So why not buy 5lbs at the time from Redbird and have the best of both? True you have to fool with freezing but even with the cost of freezing your in the "fiscal" ball park.

 
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Posted Sun Mar 24, 2013, 6:13pm
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There's no question it matters, not just in the suitability of the coffee type for milk drinks, but the outright quality, condition and success of the shot.

I drink a mix of pure espressos, cappas, lattes sometimes and Gibraltars, and I can most easily discern coffee quality when in espresso form.  But my wife has a better palate than I do, and regardless of how much milk might accompany the espresso in her cup, she tastes right through it and can nail any changes I might make, in a fully blind situation.

So I think it has a lot to do with what you're used to.  A person, say, that consistently uses sugar and/or x-amount of milk will edit those constants out and can tune into the espresso quality at the core of the drink.
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Posted Sun Mar 24, 2013, 7:03pm
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jwoodyu Said:

So why not buy 5lbs at the time from Redbird and have the best of both? True you have to fool with freezing but even with the cost of freezing your in the "fiscal" ball park.

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I agree...that seems like the best affordable option and my next one once i figure out how best to freeze the beans.
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Posted Mon Mar 25, 2013, 11:53am
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grant862 Said:

I agree...that seems like the best affordable option and my next one once i figure out how best to freeze the beans.

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Just splitting the 5lbs of beans into 6-7 ziplocs and freezing with as much air squeezed out at the back of the fridge-top freezer worked OK for me using just under a 1lb a week.  You can go fancier for longer term storage, but for a month or so that seems to be OK to me.
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Posted Mon Mar 25, 2013, 12:19pm
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I use the zip lock bags you pump air out of and I put about a cup in each one.  It takes me about 2-3 days to go through that so they are used up faster.  Out of the freezer it seems to age faster.  Basically, I am suggesting you put 2-3 days worth in each bag rather than a week's worth.  It takes me 2 months to go through 5 lbs.

 
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Posted Mon Mar 25, 2013, 12:54pm
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Coffeenoobie Said:

I use the zip lock bags you pump air out of and I put about a cup in each one.  It takes me about 2-3 days to go through that so they are used up faster.  Out of the freezer it seems to age faster.  Basically, I am suggesting you put 2-3 days worth in each bag rather than a week's worth.  It takes me 2 months to go through 5 lbs.

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The other advantage to this is that you don't have to mess with the grind very much, since the beans are around the same "age" all the time.
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Posted Mon Mar 25, 2013, 1:25pm
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I can definitely tell a difference with cheap/bad beans vs fresh roasted, i.e. Starbucks beans will give the milk drink that same burnt/ashy flavor. We mainly make iced coffee's/latte whatever you want to call it lol.

Far as freezing, I use the ball canning jars with a zip lock bag in each, with I think 90g or so of beans in each one. One get's low, take one out to defrost overnight. And just squeeze the air out of the zip each time I use the beans. Works for me. I freeze the beans right after delivery or usually within a day.
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Posted Mon Mar 25, 2013, 1:37pm
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Yes the grind thing helps.

 
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Posted Mon Mar 25, 2013, 1:50pm
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CMIN Said:

I can definitely tell a difference with cheap/bad beans vs fresh roasted, i.e. Starbucks beans will give the milk drink that same burnt/ashy flavor. We mainly make iced coffee's/latte whatever you want to call it lol.

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I agree...and find the *$$ beverages undrinkable, even when loaded with syrup, sugar and chocolate.

CMIN Said:

Far as freezing, I use the ball canning jars with a zip lock bag in each, with I think 90g or so of beans in each one. One get's low, take one out to defrost overnight. And just squeeze the air out of the zip each time I use the beans. Works for me. I freeze the beans right after delivery or usually within a day.

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I pretty much do the same thing, though I don't use the ziplocks inside of the canning jars.  Instead, I leave mine on the counter with the lid on loose for about 1/2 to 1 full day...my thinking that the degassing CO2 drives any retained air out.  When ready I lock down the lids and put them in the freezer. I thaw the same as above...then dump the jar into my hopper. I basically get about 10g/ounce in the canning jars.  Calculate needed size based on expected usage (they come in 4, 8 and 16 oz sizes - well, they come in large, but what's the point of using those?).

 
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