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Stuart
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Posted Thu Aug 16, 2012, 9:58am
Subject: Re: I have become... a SNOB
 

Zero crema on a good machine could mean stale coffee. Like someone once pointed out, it all starts with the beans. (Could be low-quality coffee, too.)

I have travelled a bit this year, and make a point of trying to find good espresso at my destinations. Suffice it to say that this objective isn't always acheivable, and that some of what I've gotten in the search has been spectacularly, irredeemably, undrinkably bad.

(Betterday Coffee in Santa Fe is pretty OK. Virtually everything else was not.)
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Posted Fri Aug 17, 2012, 2:27pm
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Coffeenoobie Said:

I did it! I became a snob! I did not mean too.

Posted March 1, 2012 link

Snob is really overused to mean someone with pickier tastes.  There's nothing wrong with knowing what you like and what you don't like.

Coffeenoobie Said:

I thought I couldn't tell how bad it was with milk covering it, but I could.

Posted March 1, 2012 link

I suspect many would.  "Milk hides all evil" is repeated a lot but in my experience milk may make espresso more palatable but it can't compensate for poor espresso.  A latte made with poor espresso is a poor latte.  If one can't tell between a poor latte and a good latte then that person's taste buds are probably shot.

frcn Said:

You did learn an important lesson, no? The best beans in inept hands can easily make a poor beverage.

Posted March 1, 2012 link

^ This.  Miscela is just one of the five beans.  Like a chain, the weakest link takes down the entire chain with it.

Dodge1 Said:

A real espresso snob would know that the chances of getting a drinkable espresso from any retail outlet is close to zip

Posted March 2, 2012 link

If you're just randomly selecting shops, sure.  A little research goes a long way to shifting the odds in one's favor.
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Posted Thu Aug 30, 2012, 11:33am
Subject: Re: I have become... a SNOB
 

I live in the land of coffee stands and coffee shops, so I should be able to find good coffee.  And I am sure now I am a coffee snob.  Is there a 12 step program for me?

I feel sure I am making the best coffee within 25 miles... maybe 30 of my house.  You have to drive a ways to even get people that understand what barista means.

 
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Posted Thu Aug 30, 2012, 11:49am
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Coffeenoobie Said:

Is there a 12 step program for me? I feel sure I am making the best coffee within 25 miles... maybe 30 of my house.

Posted August 30, 2012 link

Step 1  Find out if there are any other CG's in the 25 - 30 miles.  Sure you are making the best?  :)

 
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Posted Thu Aug 30, 2012, 4:03pm
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In the middle of no where so... pretty sure.

 
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Posted Mon Sep 3, 2012, 11:29am
Subject: Re: I have become... a SNOB
 

Doesn't it suck to be a coffee geek?  Sure we enjoy coffee in a way the laymen will never understand, we brew better coffee than most coffee shops (if not all) in the surrounding area, but at what cost?  What happens when our grinder breaks (just yesterday), and we have to go to the store to buy pre-ground garbage (chock full o nuts... not too bad).  Or we just don't have time for that morning cup and the nearest place is a dunkin donuts to get a cup, or a Quik Check for a cup of pre-made urn coffee (thank god they flavor it to mask the truth).  How about having a nice family dinner at a relatives and putting your lips to a cup of watery stale beverage so hot it singes your tongue just to feign a smile when they ask "How's the coffee?"  As an artist I come across many pretentious jerks but becoming one just makes me realize how frustrating it is to know something so simple that other people are oblivious to.  And when I pay out the ass for a coffee beverage from some hipster coffee shop just to have a sour/bitter espresso blacker than Charlie Murphy served to me?  

I would say ignorance is bliss: but every time I brew a cup of sweet dark nectar I find myself nodding my head with a smile beaming on my face and I say: "F*** yea that's good coffee."

 
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Posted Mon Sep 3, 2012, 12:30pm
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Nicholas, it should make you happy to know that portions of your last post made it on my facebook quote wall. Right next to Oliver Holmes, Jonathan Swift, some anonymous poet from the 16th century, and Anselm of Canterbury. Congrats and thank you :)

~Nick

 
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Posted Tue Sep 4, 2012, 11:30am
Subject: Re: I have become... a SNOB
 

CaffeineFiend Said:

Doesn't it suck to be a coffee geek?  Sure we enjoy coffee in a way the laymen will never understand, we brew better coffee than most coffee shops (if not all) in the surrounding area, but at what cost?  What happens when our grinder breaks (just yesterday), and we have to go to the store to buy pre-ground garbage (chock full o nuts... not too bad).  Or we just don't have time for that morning cup and the nearest place is a dunkin donuts to get a cup, or a Quik Check for a cup of pre-made urn coffee (thank god they flavor it to mask the truth).  How about having a nice family dinner at a relatives and putting your lips to a cup of watery stale beverage so hot it singes your tongue just to feign a smile when they ask "How's the coffee?"  As an artist I come across many pretentious jerks but becoming one just makes me realize how frustrating it is to know something so simple that other people are oblivious to.  And when I pay out the ass for a coffee beverage from some hipster coffee shop just to have a sour/bitter espresso blacker than Charlie Murphy served to me?

Posted September 3, 2012 link

+1000

CaffeineFiend Said:

I would say ignorance is bliss: but every time I brew a cup of sweet dark nectar I find myself nodding my head with a smile beaming on my face and I say: "F*** yea that's good coffee."

Posted September 3, 2012 link

AMEN to that!

 
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Posted Mon Dec 10, 2012, 3:02pm
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I was afraid to add anything to this thread as it's start date was a bit ago....and then I realized it was quite honestly an epic conversation I could easily understand, feel deeply within my own limited experience, and cheer for all the others who added their special take or something more - adding to my enjoyment.

Having recently discovered I no longer fit the definition of who I though I was as a member of the daily workforce, I've been trying to re-imagine what I'd like to bring to the community around me. THAT brings the many edged sword out regards a love of quality coffees. It is simply so hard to get between the gushing lust and joy of new beans, better roasts, and ever new experiences at the cup; and the common waste land witnessed surrounding me of local geography and accepted: good enough.  

Heh, thank the modern gods that be we lunatics in the desert can commune with one another - around the globe - as if we were sitting to a common table over a nice cuppa-joe.

Allow me to raise my cup to each and every one of you.
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Posted Mon Dec 10, 2012, 3:14pm
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MerleApAmber Said:

I was afraid to add anything to this thread as it's start date was a bit ago....and then I realized it was quite honestly an epic conversation I could easily understand, feel deeply within my own limited experience, and cheer for all the others who added their special take or something more - adding to my enjoyment.

Having recently discovered I no longer fit the definition of who I though I was as a member of the daily workforce, I've been trying to re-imagine what I'd like to bring to the community around me. THAT brings the many edged sword out regards a love of quality coffees. It is simply so hard to get between the gushing lust and joy of new beans, better roasts, and ever new experiences at the cup; and the common waste land witnessed surrounding me of local geography and accepted: good enough.  

Heh, thank the modern gods that be we lunatics in the desert can commune with one another - around the globe - as if we were sitting to a common table over a nice cuppa-joe.

Allow me to raise my cup to each and every one of you.

Posted December 10, 2012 link

Chris..
welcome to CG, and if you've already been, welcome again!
This is a nice thread to revisit.

 
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