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Posted Tue Apr 24, 2012, 8:29am
Subject: Re: I have never had an espresso
 

calblacksmith Said:

Until you get a grinder that is able to properly grind for espresso, I feel your best results will be from the PPF. If you can remove the guts without destroying the PPF, you have nothing to loose by giving that a try. The Aroma is a basic, no frills machine but it does provide proper pressure and with temp surfing, you can get the temp too.

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I plan on using the ppf for a while, but I read that the crema is less bitter using the non-pressurized pf.  Using the ppf would certainly be easier on my Maestro Plus and, if the 'spro isn't too bitter, I may use it for quite a while.  I'm just gonna have to give it a whirl and see what happens.  Some have removed the "guts" from the ppf and have been able to replace them later with no problems.  Others have said that after they removed the plastic part, the spring, and the rubber grommet, that they were not able to successfully restore it.  Of course, they may have broken the little spring or chipped the plastic base when removing it.  We'll see... right now I'm just mainly speculating.

 
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Posted Tue Apr 24, 2012, 10:18am
Subject: Re: I have never had an espresso
 

wsikes Said:

Wifee and I drink fat-free... I wouldn't think it would froth up very well.  In fact, I'm surprised that it will even froth up at all.  Thanks for that note.

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Once in awhile I will get very nice micro foam from the fat free so I know it is posiable.
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Posted Tue Apr 24, 2012, 1:14pm
Subject: Re: I have never had an espresso
 

When does the machine get to you??  

I ordered a print (cafepress) for my espresso area 14 days ago and I am tired of waiting for it.  The mail would have been 10 times faster than this fedx ground turtle delivery.  They shipped it right away but it has taken forever to get here, I expect it today or tomorrow...
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Posted Tue Apr 24, 2012, 1:27pm
Subject: Re: I have never had an espresso
 

LOL, that is what we refer to as an ASO.

Or Anvil Shaped Object! The best use for these is as a piece of yard art or if you have a really BIG door that you need to keep open!

The worst ones come from China though the UBER discount tool house Harbor Freight, did have some cast STEEL anvils that were not TOO bad, though they were very soft. The face needs to be hard to not get marked up while you are working.

There were some U.S. made cast anvils that did not ring and when they are in good working shape, they work very well though they are not repairable and when the hard face seperates from the cast base, they are yard art. They were made by Fisher and a lot of people like them because they do NOT ring! Another brand is one that is familiar to nearly every guy that went through metal shop class in High School, back in the 60s to mid 70s, they were made by Vulcan (They featured an arm and hammer logo, raised in casting. They also had a number near the foot which was the weight when new and had one number dropped. A 12 was a 120# anvil) http://www.anvilfire.com/anvils/donated_007.php (yes I am a member of that site too!) and they made anvils up until the mid 60s or so. They were the last U.S. made cast anvil and though they are near the bottom of the quality scale of U.S. anvils, they are light years ahead of the ASOs coming from China.

OK, there is my little history lesson on a subject that most people just don't care about anyway!

 
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Posted Tue Apr 24, 2012, 2:47pm
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Yeah... you're exactly right.  I belong to several smithing forums, including the ones you mentioned, but had to quit because my heart went south... can't swing the old hammer anymore.  I did a lot of research on this type of anvil "after I bought it" but didn't really get burned because it is worth it's weight in scrap.  I just keep it around as a conversation piece... and an ASO is exactly what it is.  Funny thing is that it has a nice ring on one end but the other end is like hitting a piece of wood... lol.

 
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Posted Tue Apr 24, 2012, 2:55pm
Subject: Re: I have never had an espresso
 

Coffeenoobie Said:

When does the machine get to you??  

I ordered a print (cafepress) for my espresso area 14 days ago and I am tired of waiting for it.  The mail would have been 10 times faster than this fedx ground turtle delivery.  They shipped it right away but it has taken forever to get here, I expect it today or tomorrow...
Click Here (www.cafepress.com)

Posted April 24, 2012 link

That's a nice poster... I saw those listed somewhere and looked around my work area to see if I had room for one, but I would have to take down my Peyton Manning poster in order to have room for it.  He's staying on the wall, so no coffee poster...lol.
About the slow shipping... I can't think of the classification, but the USPS has a cheap rate on printed material and I know I have waited for weeks to get a book shipped via that method.  It sure is frustrating... I feel your pain.
Oh... almost forgot... my machine is "supposed" to be here by Saturday.  We'll see.

 
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Posted Tue Apr 24, 2012, 4:59pm
Subject: Re: I have never had an espresso
 

I just noticed that the picture of the machine I bought has a different faceplate (control panel face) than the pics of the new ones I have seen.  This must be the older model of the Saeco Aroma.  Anybody know the differences in the old and the new?

 
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Posted Wed Apr 25, 2012, 7:03am
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Ordered some Brazil Yellow Bourbon today from Tom... hope it blends well with my Rwanda.  Also ordered some Monkey Blend and Gneiss Workshop #20 (at least I think that's what the name of the blend was...).  Can't wait until the machine gets here.

 
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Posted Wed Apr 25, 2012, 9:26am
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Has anybody here ever used a phosphoric acid based cleaner for their stainless steel boiler?  I just happen to have a gallon of Milkstone Remover (approximately 50% phosphoric acid) and it is supposed to be good at descaling stainless steel if diluted.

MODS:  I am going to start a new thread with this post.  Delete this post if it will be a problem.  Thanks.

 
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Posted Wed Apr 25, 2012, 9:34am
Subject: Re: I have never had an espresso
 

Coffeenoobie Said:

I ordered a print (cafepress) for my espresso area 14 days ago and I am tired of waiting for it...
Click Here (www.cafepress.com)

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I have that poster on a t-shirt.  It's one of my favorites.

 
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