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Posted Mon Apr 23, 2012, 3:21pm
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Coffeenoobie Said:

yes fat milk is better, but since I am fat already I use 2%.  :)  And Call me Noobie! Or Helen, Noob sounds bad.  And why don't I already own metric allen wrenches?

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Will do, Noobie... nice map!

 
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Posted Mon Apr 23, 2012, 3:24pm
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Thanks, I often find myself out and about on a whim so I wanted to have stuff marked ahead of time so I try coffee beans when I am in the area.

 
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Posted Mon Apr 23, 2012, 3:33pm
Subject: Re: I have never had an espresso
 

I will froth up some half and half at times and have even done light cream, perfect for after dinner with desert, the more fat seems to equal more sweet. Most of the time I use 2% and fat free for my wife, I find 2% much easier to do well of the two.
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Posted Mon Apr 23, 2012, 3:54pm
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germantownrob Said:

I will froth up some half and half at times and have even done light cream, perfect for after dinner with desert, the more fat seems to equal more sweet. Most of the time I use 2% and fat free for my wife, I find 2% much easier to do well of the two.

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I've read where others use 2%... I bet the cream is good!

 
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Posted Tue Apr 24, 2012, 6:02am
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EricBNC Said:

Oh, you need to by a used HX (in before the usual suspects) since these are the only machines in the world capable of producing espresso - I suppose new HX's clearly will not work for the new user since they are never, ever recommended...

Tongue in cheek of course - go forth and espress with your gear and beans!

Posted April 23, 2012 link

NOW NOW NOW, HX machines are NOT for everyone, not even close!!! If you make a lot of drinks a day OR leave it on all day OR make a lot of drink and they are milk based, then yes, you are a great candidate for a HX but if all you want is one or two drinks a day and they are mainly straight, then a PID'd SBDU can turn out great espresso with the least fuss. I am not a fan of PID units for ALL machines (on some machines they are worse than useless) but on a SBDU, they make life much easier. You can get great espresso without a PID but it will require more work on your part to get the temp correct.

Just one of the USUAL SUSPECTS point of view.

Carry on,  the Saeco with a PPF and his grinder will get him something better than the corner coffee shop, even if there was one there, which as there isn't one, he will have the best coffee in his neighborhood!

 
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Posted Tue Apr 24, 2012, 6:22am
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calblacksmith Said:

Carry on,  the Saeco with a PPF and his grinder will get him something better than the corner coffee shop, even if there was one there, which as there isn't one, he will have the best coffee in his neighborhood!

Posted April 24, 2012 link

I certainly hope so!  I read where the shots are less bitter if drawn using a non-pressurized pf, so I splurged and bought a tamper last night.  I plan on trying the pff first, and then either buying a good pf or cannibalize the ppf.  I want to eventually do this the right way.
Last night I read the entire glossary relating to espresso and found that it was very enlightening.  Even though I knew the meanings of most of the terms, the explanations were very educational.  Good stuff.

Calblacksmith, wanna buy a 292 pound "bootleg" anvil?  I could ship it in via priority mail.  I'll let you have it for the postage...lol.

 
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Posted Tue Apr 24, 2012, 6:24am
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germantownrob Said:

I will froth up some half and half at times and have even done light cream, perfect for after dinner with desert, the more fat seems to equal more sweet. Most of the time I use 2% and fat free for my wife, I find 2% much easier to do well of the two.

Posted April 23, 2012 link

Wifee and I drink fat-free... I wouldn't think it would froth up very well.  In fact, I'm surprised that it will even froth up at all.  Thanks for that note.

 
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Posted Tue Apr 24, 2012, 7:18am
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wsikes Said:

Calblacksmith, wanna buy a 292 pound "bootleg" anvil?  I could ship it in via priority mail.  I'll let you have it for the postage...lol.

Posted April 24, 2012 link

UH, OK, I have to ask, what is a "bootleg" anvil? Would that be home made, counterfit, black market? LOL!

 
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Posted Tue Apr 24, 2012, 7:21am
Subject: Re: I have never had an espresso
 

Until you get a grinder that is able to properly grind for espresso, I feel your best results will be from the PPF. If you can remove the guts without destroying the PPF, you have nothing to loose by giving that a try. The Aroma is a basic, no frills machine but it does provide proper pressure and with temp surfing, you can get the temp too.

 
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Posted Tue Apr 24, 2012, 8:23am
Subject: Re: I have never had an espresso
 

calblacksmith Said:

UH, OK, I have to ask, what is a "bootleg" anvil? Would that be home made, counterfit, black market? LOL!

Posted April 24, 2012 link

From what I have read, these anvils (which have poor casting quality and don't give that "ringing" sound as nicely as a !st line anvil) are apparently made in Mexico using scrap iron and there is/was apparently a market for them in the States at one time.  I hear that many can be found in the southwest... I paid $50 for it and it is worth more than that as scrap.

 
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