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Posted Sat Feb 25, 2012, 2:51pm
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Its sad top see many restaurants do not take pride in making coffee like they do with their food, or they just simply do not know how to do good coffee.
Its sad I do not bother going out for a coffee.

Very few places do a great drink.

 
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Posted Sat Mar 3, 2012, 2:17am
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My sister was in town and I took her to lunch at the Ritz Carlton in Half Moon Bay yesterday. I learned about the Ritz on the Travel Channel. Looked so nice. Iíve never been there before and with the nice weather this was a great day to visit.

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Posted Sat Mar 3, 2012, 2:17am
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The wind was offshore resulting in no fog and a very pleasant 65F right at the ocean.

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Posted Sat Mar 3, 2012, 2:17am
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At the Ritz is this beautiful lunch room overlooking the ocean.

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Posted Sat Mar 3, 2012, 2:17am
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For lunch I had a very tasty pasta dish with a really nice wine pairing. Of course I had to try an espresso. This 2oz single espresso was served in a regular size coffee cup. This was not an espresso, it was coffee brewed on an espresso machine. No body, little bit sweet with some herbal flavors. The waiter told me they use coffee beans roasted by Prebica. Donít recognize the name.

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Posted Sat Mar 3, 2012, 2:18am
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All in all, my sister and I had a very nice visit at the Ritz in Half Moon Bay. Service was excellent. The overall experience made me me feel like a millionaire just being there. Very enjoyable!

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Posted Sun Mar 4, 2012, 10:50am
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What came first the chicken or the egg? Do the restaurant not sell many espressos because they suck or do they suck because they don't sell many espressos?  I believe if the upped their game they would sell more.

If super autos can do a good job then more mid range restaurants could do that at least.  If a small place can't sell a lot of coffee then get the great beans and bag it in one shot vacuum bags, freeze and pull them out when needed and grind them instantly and pull the shot. Do that for a few months and I bet they would sell more coffee and could then go through more coffee so it could be fresh.  I like the idea of the restaurant roasting their own and letting you smell it at the table but that seems too slow for most places.  And I agree with staff training.  Most of the coffee machines I see around restaurants here are at the bar.  Seems like training the bar tender to be the barista would be a logical thing to do.

 
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Posted Mon Apr 16, 2012, 9:41am
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I think most restaurants simply believe that most people, with the exception of a few "hardcore" coffee enthusiasts won't know the difference between a "good" espresso and a "bad" one, so they just throw in what they can and be happy that they're earning from that. I mean personally, that's how it is for me since I grew up with the taste of mere instant coffee, there was a phase in my life that anything that is remotely more decent than that, I deem as "good coffee". I'm lucky that my eyes and taste buds are starting to open now and I can fairly differentiate the good ones from the bad ones.

What sucks is that most coffees from restaurants or cafes are not just bad but overpriced as well. You'd think that if you're going to go hungry for a while to be able to splurge on a good cup of coffee, at least you'll be able to get something that will blow your brains away. But that's not the case, most of the time. Makes me want to consider saving up for my own espresso machine and learn how to make my own cup. Won't it be a good investment?
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Posted Mon Apr 16, 2012, 12:13pm
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It is fun but frustrating hobby.  But I am glad I sprung for it.  But I live in a place where good roasted beans are really easy to get.  Not sure about beans where you are, but my guess is you could get greens and roast them yourself.

 
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Posted Mon Apr 16, 2012, 12:39pm
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this thread was both sad and highly entertaining.  haha

thanks for all the reports and pictures, GaryH.
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