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GaryH
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Posted Sun Oct 16, 2011, 12:04pm
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Next I asked the waitress if they served espresso. Now here comes the twist. Both the waitress, and the boyfriend (Jose) of another waitress, also work at a third wave coffee house, Red Berry Coffee Bar, located in San Jose, so they knew all about great espresso.

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The waitress at Bon Vivant advised me not order the espresso because the espresso machine wasn’t very good, and they were not allowed to change the grind setting on the grinder. The espresso, made with roasted coffee beans from Mr Espresso, was pretty decent actually. The waitress was so embarrassed serving the espresso that she didn’t charge me for it. I also had a cappuccino with latte art, but the barista told me that she didn’t like the steam wand of the espresso machine, so getting quality steamed milk was a problem. So the unusual thing is that the waitress actually discouraged me from ordering espresso drinks because they actually knew what quality espresso is supposed to taste like and they warned me that I would be disappointed with it.

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Posted Sun Oct 16, 2011, 12:04pm
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The Bon Vivant restaurant didn’t have any dessert that contained chocolate, so after dinner I went right next door to Monique’s where I had a milk chocolate and a 100% totally dark truffle, i.e. no sugar added, just cream. The chocolatier advised me to eat the milk chocolate first because it would taste too sweet if I would eat the dark chocolate first. This chocolate experience was a nice flowing continuation of my french dinner.

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Posted Sun Oct 16, 2011, 12:22pm
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Thanks, Gary. I always appreciate your posts, but in the past I've wondered why they tend to come in bunches. Think I've figured it out now--because you can only attach one image file per post, right?!
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Posted Sun Oct 23, 2011, 9:02am
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jbviau Said:

Thanks, Gary. I always appreciate your posts, but in the past I've wondered why they tend to come in bunches. Think I've figured it out now--because you can only attach one image file per post, right?!

Posted October 16, 2011 link

And each image file I post contains multiple photos. If I would cram more photos into each collage or image file, then each photo would be too small to see clearly. In the past month I actually posted 97 image files, so that is hundreds of photos (crazy). But there are so many coffee houses that opened this year that I wanted to visit. I like taking pics because when I post about a coffee house visit it makes writing about my coffee house experience more real. The two restaurant espresso experiences I posted about in this thread were very nice meals, and I posted multiple image files to show that I didn't just have a quick bite somewhere, but had a truly nice meal followed by mediocre espresso.
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Posted Tue Nov 1, 2011, 4:39pm
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I think it's really just ignorance, and a lack of incentives for the staff to take the time and care to prepare a proper shot.

I recently moved, and walked into a nice little italian restaurant in my neighborhood one night.

I saw a beautiful clean La Marzocco sitting proudly atop their counter and thought "hmm, this is probably a good place to order a post meal latte".

I kept an eye on the waitress as she went to prepare a drink for someone, and cringed at what I saw.

She simply knocked out an old puck, overflowed the portafilter with some pre ground coffee, then stuffed it up into the Mazzers built in "tamper" then shoved it straight into the machine without even wiping off the top of the basket.
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Posted Wed Nov 16, 2011, 5:36pm
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i like the coffee from TOAST in beverly hills.
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Posted Tue Dec 6, 2011, 10:23am
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Posted Fri Dec 23, 2011, 4:06pm
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I was in San Francisco yesterday, visiting museums, coffee houses, and having lunch at the historic Palace Hotel.

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Posted Fri Dec 23, 2011, 4:08pm
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The Palace Hotel has this incredible dining room. Over the years I've walked past this hotel many times but never had dined there, until yesterday.

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Posted Fri Dec 23, 2011, 4:09pm
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Crab cake appetizer. Looks great, flavor and texture a bit disappointing.

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