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jwoodyu
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Posted Mon Apr 25, 2011, 6:55pm
Subject: Re: Full nude coffee bar    Question  for you naked PF guys
 

JonR10 Said:

Duplicate thread deleted.  
Apologies....I should have caught that sooner!

Posted April 25, 2011 link

No worries I got the info I was looking for but I am not quite sure how i double posted.

 
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Posted Tue Apr 26, 2011, 1:12pm
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jwoodyu Said:

Do you ever use anythng besides your bottomless and if so why?

I learned on a my naked PF and just never bothered switching. Just wondered if I am missing out on something doing it that way.

Posted April 21, 2011 link

Hi j-wood etc
Learned old-school and switched to naked.

All you are missing is more clean-up and less-useful feedback...


I don't miss the messes and love more immediate feedback.


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BicaPingada
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Posted Wed Apr 27, 2011, 9:45pm
Subject: Re: Full nude coffee bar    Question  for you naked PF guys
 

Interesting question.  Until recently, I would have said that with the naked PF, there is no reason to use something else.
You can see the extraction better, no loss of crema due to extra contact, ...

But when going to a coffee event some weeks back, the barista there noted that using a double spout PF, he can see the flow better.
If it bends too much inwards as it comes out, the flow is too slow.  If it comes straight out, flow is too fast.  If it bends inwards just slightly, flow is right.

Granted you can achieve a similar effect by timing the shot/volume.  This observation coming off a double spout is also quite good.

This all assumes everything else is dialed in right and a regular routine is being followed.
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Posted Wed May 18, 2011, 1:31pm
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jwoodyu Said:

Do you ever use anythng besides your bottomless and if so why?

I learned on a my naked PF and just never bothered switching. Just wondered if I am missing out on something doing it that way.

Posted April 21, 2011 link


I asked the same question and got the same answers as the one I'm going to give: I use my naked portafilter exclusively.  I do back flushes with the single portafilter because I keep the blind basket in there.  In the very rare times I pull two singles from a double basket, I will use the double portafilter.  

Naked is where it's at.  Tastes better, looks better and gives you a better look at your dose/tamp/etc.  I know some very good cafes and baristas have gone back to the double portafilter because of taste and training - the former is that the shot will taste a bit different (good or bad), the latter is due to all the training for years has been on double portafilter.
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seasterl
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Posted Fri May 27, 2011, 12:27pm
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I used the bottomless PF for learning my technique, and now use the single exclusively.  It's easier to get the cup in the right spot.
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Posted Fri Mar 1, 2013, 1:34pm
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I received a new naked PF and it came with a triple basket. If I want to make a double shot, should I use the triple basket it came with, or should I use a double basket? The double is a bit shorter. I dont know if the shorter basket will affect the naked PF. I usually dose my double with between 15 -18 grams per 1.5 -2 oz depending on the beans. What would be a good starting point with the triple?
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Posted Fri Mar 1, 2013, 4:26pm
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min. 21-24 grams

 
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Posted Fri Mar 1, 2013, 5:52pm
Subject: Re: Full nude coffee bar    Question  for you naked PF guys
 

tdifraia Said:

I dont know if the shorter basket will affect the naked PF.

Posted March 1, 2013 link

It shouldn't make a difference.  
The naked PF is still just a "filter holder", and you should be able to use any 58mm basket you want.


tdifraia Said:

What would be a good starting point with the triple?

Posted March 1, 2013 link

Depends on the coffee and the grind setting, but Jason had a good suggestion at 21 to 24 grams

 
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myallawala
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Posted Fri Mar 1, 2013, 7:58pm
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I pull the first 2-3 shots on a new roast with a naked to dial in the shot and then switch to a double spout. I like the look of the spout more and if the shot should go just a little crazy then I don't mind because I'm typically making a cappa and won't notice the taste difference. I will however use a bottomless exclusively when I'm making straight shots. I use a ridgeless VST basket and it's a pretty quick switch for me.
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Posted Tue Mar 5, 2013, 12:22pm
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I use the naked PF everyday so that there is enough room under the PF to pour straight into the cup for americanos or milk drinks.
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