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docnlaw
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Posted Wed Feb 11, 2009, 5:00pm Subject: Tried freezing some Terroir beans and.........

I am definitely disappointed with the results. I had bought three bags of espresso to avoid the extra shipping expense, but now I have 2 frozen bags that don't hold up to espresso making. Lesson learned. Luckily I live near and they will ship for just under $5 a bag. Still steep but espresso is an expensive hobby.

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Posted Wed Feb 11, 2009, 5:24pm Subject: Re: Tried freezing some Terroir beans and.........

Tried home-roasting? I can't get decent coffee where I am either, and shipping pretty much doubles the cost of a pound of coffee, so I turned to home roasting and buying large quantities of green ( half sacks at a time ) to save cash

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Posted Wed Feb 11, 2009, 5:49pm
Subject: Re: Tried freezing some Terroir beans and.........

docnlaw Said:

but now I have 2 frozen bags that don't hold up to espresso making. Lesson learned.

Posted February 11, 2009 link

If you vacuum seal before freezing you'll be OK

Posted Wed Feb 11, 2009, 5:52pm Subject: Re: Tried freezing some Terroir beans and.........

Vacuum seal how? I kept in original sealed valve bag, wrapped in saran wrap, tin foil, and then in ziplock. Still lost flavor. Thanks for any help. Not sure I am ready to roast my own....yet.

arpi
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Posted Wed Feb 11, 2009, 5:58pm
Subject: Re: Tried freezing some Terroir beans and.........

docnlaw Said:

Vacuum seal how?.

Posted February 11, 2009 link

you need a special machine called vacuum sealer. can either be in vacuum bags or especial canisters

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Posted Wed Feb 11, 2009, 7:12pm Subject: Re: Tried freezing some Terroir beans and.........

docnlaw Said: Vacuum seal how? I kept in original sealed valve bag, wrapped in saran wrap, tin foil, and then in ziplock. Still lost flavor. Thanks for any help. Not sure I am ready to roast my own....yet. Posted February 11, 2009 link What temp is your freezer set to? A stand alone freezer or your fridge/freezer? How long were they frozen? I keep my storage freezer set to 0*F & can pull vacuum sealed bags of coffee out after 6-8 weeks or more & get excellent shots.

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Posted Wed Feb 11, 2009, 11:43pm Subject: Re: Tried freezing some Terroir beans and.........

This usually works for me: (Click for larger image)

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Posted Thu Feb 12, 2009, 12:03am Subject: Re: Tried freezing some Terroir beans and.........

Freezing has worked out really well for me. I order 5 pounds at a time, then break it down into 1/4 pound packets that I vacuum pack. I've broken open packs 4 months later and still pulled shots with loads of beautiful crema. If I leave a packet on the counter unopened, it will restart outgassing after it thaws. You can pick up a Food Saver device from Costco for a decent price (that's the unit you see in the OP's picture with a package)

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Posted Thu Feb 12, 2009, 1:04am Subject: Re: Tried freezing some Terroir beans and.........

arpi Said: If you vacuum seal before freezing you'll be OK Posted February 11, 2009 link IMO no, they won't. I'm a convert to vac-sealing and freezing green (and have a 1 and 2 year experiment ongoing regarding that), but have yet to see or taste any tangible benefits from freezing roasted coffee, even when vacuum sealed. Buy fresh roasted. Use. Buy more fresh roasted. Or roast at home. Mark

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Posted Thu Feb 12, 2009, 3:26am Subject: Re: Tried freezing some Terroir beans and.........

OBJECTIVE: A prospective, double blind, randomized, placebo controlled study to identify and determine perceived difference in vacuum sealed, 30-day frozen, vs fresh coffee MATERIALS: Fresh day-4 post roast coffee from well known, professional local roaster Vacuum sealed, frozen for 30 days, followed by four-day degased coffee, from same local roaster; same blend Quickmill Anita with Eric’s thermometer and naked portafilter Versalab M3 ACF Tulip espresso cups Coffeegeek METHODS: The control group will be 14g of fresh coffee each in six small containers with randomly assigned number for identification. The experimental group will be 14g of fresh coffee each in three small containers and 14g of frozen coffee also in three small containers, with randomly assigned numbers for identification, in random order. The coffeegeek will grind and pull six shots in the control group, taste, write down either “Frozen” or “Fresh” The same coffeegeek will then grind and pull six shots from the experimental group, taste, and write down either “Frozen” or “Fresh” Who is the coffeegeek volunteer?

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