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rbh1515
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Posted Wed May 2, 2007, 9:14am
Subject: What new espresso related things did you learn/discover/adapt in the last 12 mo.
 

I've been making espresso for about 17 years now.  Just when I think I'm making the best espresso I possibly can, or steaming the milk just right, I figure out a new technique, or hear about a new technique, or buy a new product that improves my espresso.  The last 12 months have seen a number of good changes for me.  See below.  What good discoveries have you made?   Rob

  1.  I have had a naked portafilter for a while, but I never liked using it much because I often got some channeling, and espresso would occasionally spray out and make a mess.  I knew I had a problem with the distribution and packing of the grounds but wasn't sure of the fix until my neighbor told me about the technique of using a small yogourt container--you cut out the bottom of the container so that it fits in your portafilter basket.  Then you dump the grounds in the basket and use an impliment (I use a extra temperature probe) to stir the grounds around so you have a good distribution.  Now I have no more channeling!!

  2. I bought a Scace device and a Fluke digital thermometer.  I found out that my water was too hot coming out of the group head.  I turned down the pressurestat a bit and flush a bit more.  Now my water is at a much better temp!

  3. I won the WLL latte art contest last summer--free beans for a year!  One problem--I get a couple pounds of beans at the beginning of the month, and if I let them sit they would go stale.  A few of my neighbors have benefited--I gave a lot of good stuff to them, such as Vivace Vita.  Plus, occasionally my dad in Seattle sends me something tasty like a pound of Victrola's Streamline.  Too many beans to have on hand at once!!  I started freezing some of the beans in airtight bags--they actually are great 2-3 weeks later.  Recently I saw an article at HomeBarista that stated freezing beans is not a bad thing to do!

  4. After I bought the Scace device, I found that the device didn't fit that well in the grouphead of my Astra Gourmet.  The Astra uses a fairly thick dispersion block (the dispersion screen fits onto the dispersion block).  They say that with this system you don't have to tamp.  Well, of course I have always tamped, and the thick dispersion block was the only thing on the Astra that I didn't like.  It just protrudes too far into the basket.  I called Astra, and sure enough they carry a much thinner dispersion block--the Scace devise now fits perfectly, and the dispersion screen isn't butting up against the grounds in the basket anymore, which can disrupt the tamped grounds!

Thats it.  I hope there will be more revelations in the years to come.  Anyone else have any good ideas??
Rob
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Posted Wed May 2, 2007, 11:43am
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Here's mine:

  1.  Got an iRoast2 and started home roasting.  I'll never go back.

  2.  Upgraded from a Solis Maestro to a Macap M4 doser/stepless.  Learned that everyone was telling the truth about the difference a great grinder can make.

  3.  Made a bottomless mod to a Solis portafilter, and it works great.

All these things together have greatly improved my craft.

 
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Posted Wed May 2, 2007, 9:01pm
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  1. used the weiss distribution method makes better consistent pours

  2. naked portafilter (actually more than 12 months agobut I love it so much I have to post it)

  3. I switched to a machine with a 3 way valve, exploding portafilter suck

  4. LM ridged basket makes better espresso

 
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Posted Wed May 2, 2007, 9:35pm
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Upgraded to an HX.

Put together an SC-TO combo.  

Developed a new "super fast" distribution method.  

Learned some things about dosing, grind setting, and their impacts on flavor.  

Became obsessed with honesty in the cup, which lead to an obsession with green quality, which lead to suspicion of the term "Specialty Grade".  

Re-analyzed everything I thought I knew about how espresso worked, and came to the conclusion that there is no conclusive evidence of any of it without access to Illy's theoretically existing glass portafilter.  

I learned that degree of roast greatly impacts the behavior of the puck during extraction.  

I learned just how important a good steam tip can be to getting microfoam.  

I learned not to trust everyone I run into who happens to be interested in coffee quality.  

I realized I prefer normale dosing.. which is related to the honesty thing.  

I'm sure I'm leaving out a whole lot, but that's all I can remember for now.

 
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Posted Thu May 3, 2007, 12:57pm
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Jasonian

You really hit it on the head. Those are things I have learned as well and feel we have a long way to go before we start seeing better quality coffee and espresso

 
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Posted Thu May 3, 2007, 2:55pm
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I learned what an espresso really is, that I can actually make it at home with coffee that I roast at home, and that I quite like it!

Really enjoyed reading your list Jason ... perhaps mine will be similar next year ...

 
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Posted Thu May 3, 2007, 3:27pm
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Jasonian Said:

I realized I prefer normale dosing.. which is related to the honesty thing.  

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Me too, returned to primarily normale vs ristetto shots. Harder to pull well but ultimately worth it. (Atleast I think that's what you were referring to.)

Second big thing was started using finger tripod each simultaneously touching tamper piston and top lip of PF/basket to help assure properly aligned tamp. (yeah be hot, (hobby) chef fingers:-)

 
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Posted Thu May 3, 2007, 10:16pm
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mcKoffee Said:

Me too, returned to primarily normale vs ristetto shots. Harder to pull well but ultimately worth it. (Atleast I think that's what you were referring to.)

Second big thing was started using finger tripod each simultaneously touching tamper piston and top lip of PF/basket to help assure properly aligned tamp. (yeah be hot, (hobby) chef fingers:-)

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Hey I agree 1000% my doubles seem better to me then my ristrettos ever have.  I've been doing the tripod also (great minds work alike huh?)  ;)

 
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Posted Fri May 4, 2007, 12:14pm
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mcKoffee Said:

Me too, returned to primarily normale vs ristetto shots. Harder to pull well but ultimately worth it. (Atleast I think that's what you were referring to.)

Second big thing was started using finger tripod each simultaneously touching tamper piston and top lip of PF/basket to help assure properly aligned tamp. (yeah be hot, (hobby) chef fingers:-)

Posted May 3, 2007 link

I've never heard of anyone refer to the "finger tripod".  I started doing this a couple years ago so that my tamp would be more level.  I guess there are a lot of techniques out there that many of us discover independently.
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Posted Fri May 4, 2007, 12:27pm
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rbh1515 Said:

I've never heard of anyone refer to the "finger tripod".  I started doing this a couple years ago so that my tamp would be more level.  I guess there are a lot of techniques out there that many of us discover independently.
Rob

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Never heard it called that either, just made up the term 'cuz sounded appropriate. I picked up the technique watching barista competitions.

 
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