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Posted Fri May 20, 2005, 4:36am
Subject: Re: Why do many CoffeeGeeks dislike drip coffee?
 

When I have friends over who want American coffee (drip/vac/press) rather than espresso, I just make then an Americano.  It actually taste better to most.  It has ther sweetness and complexity of espresso and retains some of the crema too but is stretched a bit to make it milder.

 
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Posted Fri May 20, 2005, 6:38am
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explorateur Said:

obviously drip coffee has its place in market.  my question was concerning individual coffeegeeks. :)

Posted May 17, 2005 link


Well, from our data about the sales of our coffee shops in another thread, it may show that many people could prefer espresso than drip coffee if only the espresso is very well made.

I cannot be sure about that at this moment due to the very short time and limited clients figures.  If my feeling is right, it can be something like the fact.

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Posted Fri May 20, 2005, 10:02am
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singforsupper Said:

When I have friends over who want American coffee (drip/vac/press) rather than espresso, I just make then an Americano.  It actually taste better to most.  It has ther sweetness and complexity of espresso and retains some of the crema too but is stretched a bit to make it milder.

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Seems odd to put drip/vac/press into the same category (American coffee).  Most people I know are actually more familiar with espresso (they don't like it much) than with press (largely a European practice) or vac (rare, indeed in the usual American household or office).  Useful categories are 1) drip; 2)pour-over --includes press; and 3) espresso--each  having various permutations of sweetening, other flavoring, and milk.

IMO, the biggest impediment to getting Americans to drink decent coffee has to do with habits and lifestyles associated with a quick no-brainer- cup of coffee--or an 8+ oz drink to wash down breakfast or bring back to the desk or put in the SUV cup holder..  Since press/pour-over and vac require equipment and a skill-set that Americans are less familiar with, the answer might be to initiate potential enthusiasts to spring for one of the few drip machines that can actually deliver proper temperature.  For the more adventurous, I'd buy them a press and see if they like it--but they'd probably find it too much trouble.

Drip?  Still haven't heard or experienced anything compelling that drip has merits that go up to or beyond a simple chemex or melita cone pour-over.

Then there's the percolator.  Nothing can match the . . . .uh, sound.

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Posted Fri May 20, 2005, 10:12am
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heatgunroast Said:

Drip?  Still haven't heard or experienced anything compelling that drip has merits that go up to or beyond a simple chemex or melita cone pour-over.
Martin

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Sure there is Martin, the Technivorm, its basically immediate & neck to neck equal., the Melitta Clarity.., & from what I've heard the Scandanavian Presto. {:-)

 
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Posted Fri May 20, 2005, 10:33am
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CraigA Said:

Sure there is Martin, the Technivorm, its basically immediate & neck to neck equal., the Melitta Clarity.., & from what I've heard the Scandanavian Presto. {:-)

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Yes, these are the two most cited, and Ive no doubt that those who rave about them are correct  I'll also accept that the "hassle" factor is no greater with these and maybe less.  And I've further defer to these machines based on my never having tried them.  So, please say more about why  would you reach for your Technovorm/Clarity instead of your press or pour-over.

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Posted Fri May 20, 2005, 10:41am
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Easy, depends on what I feel like on that particular day or whatever suits my whim/fancy!
I usually use my FP twice a day, & my Clarity makes coffee every bit as good as my FP with a Swiss Gold #4 cone filter or the Flavorpore filters. It also brews a little more coffee than my Melitta pourover. {;-)

Now to ENJOY the 1st major Canadian long weekend!!, Victoria Day! {:-D

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Posted Sun May 22, 2005, 5:29pm
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I like my drip coffee like I like my women...

 
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Posted Fri May 9, 2014, 9:42am
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Drip coffee are the traditional way to make coffee I think it's not manual but a semi automatic what concerne me i dont hate drip coffee makers it still a good way to make underground coffee.
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Posted Fri May 9, 2014, 1:43pm
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Believe it or not, I don't have enough time in the morning to brew drip and wait for it to get to brewing temperature. not to mention drinking all that volume ;). When I get my Lido 2, i'll be doing some drip at the office (I absolutely hate the hario mini mill i have now and an electric grinder is out of the question).

As for taste, the reason americans don't like espresso is because they've only had bad ones. My girlfriend says she hates espresso but when i pull something I really like, it always amazes her how much she likes it. She falls into the category of too lazy to learn how to do espresso for herself.

When I drop, its uses a chemex/v60/bonimac. I tried the highly raved bonavita auto drip but it's jsut not the same.
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Posted Fri May 9, 2014, 2:24pm
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Can't believe it's been 9 yrs since I last posted on this thread.  You have to think about espresso and brewed coffee as substantially different drinks rather than variations on a theme.  Analogies are dangerous (when they're not just stupid)  but try this: Might you ask why some people like a fine bourbon, but not so much an equally fine port?  Or prefer a Pilsner to an IPA?  

I'm not sure that "dislike drip coffee" describes Geeks.  IMO it's a matter of "opportunity costs."  I like drip well enough.  I enjoy an "endless cup" coffee service when I'm pigging out on a traditional egg-based breakfast. It would be better if the coffee were a 3rd wave slow pour rather than glopped out of an urn.  Nevertheless, it's a hot, comforting, bitter-ish memory-laden drink.  And no way would a 4th or 5th espresso accomplish my need for that.  But the other 363 days espresso OR drip is a choice, and if at home, where I can reliably get great espresso, I'd always opt for that.

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