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explorateur
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Posted Mon May 16, 2005, 9:34am
Subject: Why do many CoffeeGeeks dislike drip coffee?
 

i've noticed while browsing the espresso sections of this forum that some people don't care at all for drip coffee.  why is that?

personally, i've never consumed much drip coffee.  i grew up drinking espresso, and later began using french presses and vac pots.  however last month i bought a my first drip set-up, a melitta clarity and a swiss gold filter, and with freshly roasted and ground beans, i am really enjoying the results.  since i'm not using paper filters, i'm not getting the "papery" taste that's often associated with drip.  while i still prefer the flavors of espresso and will always be a french press junkie, i'm finding drip can be really good and nice change.

is it that drip coffee is often of poor quality, or something about the brewing process, or past trauma with bad drip? other than the matter of personal taste, is there anything specifically that makes drip coffee undesirable among some coffee connoisseurs?

i'm not sure if this may appear to be a silly question, but i was just wondering.
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Posted Mon May 16, 2005, 10:06am
Subject: Re: Why do many CoffeeGeeks dislike drip coffee?
 

Hi Valerie,

I would think that most people who don't like drip coffee is that almost all of these brewers brew at too cool a temperature & take too long to brew a full pot. Anything much over 5 minutes brew time you will be overextracting.
Too cool a temp for brewing & the resulting brew is sour, & too long (or too hot) a brew it'll be overextracted & pulling undesirable bittering constituents into the brew.The main exceptions being the Technivorm series of brewers, the Melitta Clarity, Presto, Bunn brewers & I'm sure some others I'm not aware of. {:-)

 
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Posted Mon May 16, 2005, 10:11am
Subject: Re: Why do many CoffeeGeeks dislike drip coffee?
 

Most people who don't like drip have had only weak or tepid drip.  Drip done right can almost rival press-pot or vacuum.

 
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Posted Mon May 16, 2005, 10:48am
Subject: Re: Why do many CoffeeGeeks dislike drip coffee?
 

Some like to think that if you do not drink espresso (or French Press) or whatever, you are not cool.  Don't buy it.

I consider myself a CoffeeGeek, and my espresso machine gets turned on about 3 times a week, but my drip is on about 10-14 times a week.

By the replies to your question so far, be assured - drip is not dead!

 
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Posted Mon May 16, 2005, 10:53am
Subject: Re: Why do many CoffeeGeeks dislike drip coffee?
 

explorateur Said:

i've noticed while browsing the espresso sections of this forum that some people don't care at all for drip coffee.  why is that?

personally, i've never consumed much drip coffee.  i grew up drinking espresso, and later began using french presses and vac pots.  however last month i bought a my first drip set-up, a melitta clarity and a swiss gold filter, and with freshly roasted and ground beans, i am really enjoying the results.  since i'm not using paper filters, i'm not getting the "papery" taste that's often associated with drip.  while i still prefer the flavors of espresso and will always be a french press junkie, i'm finding drip can be really good and nice change.

is it that drip coffee is often of poor quality, or something about the brewing process, or past trauma with bad drip? other than the matter of personal taste, is there anything specifically that makes drip coffee undesirable among some coffee connoisseurs?

i'm not sure if this may appear to be a silly question, but i was just wondering.

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Posted Mon May 16, 2005, 10:58am
Subject: Re: Why do many CoffeeGeeks dislike drip coffee?
 

ChicagoSandy Said:

Drip done right can almost rival press-pot or vacuum.

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Hey!  What are you saying?  That drip isnt as good as press-pot or vacuum?!?! :-)

 
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Posted Mon May 16, 2005, 11:03am
Subject: Re: Why do many CoffeeGeeks dislike drip coffee?
 

I agree with the post above about overextraction. As well, I think that it is likely that drip coffee is actually prepared worse and less consistent than espresso! (EDIT: Well... really, maybe I'm wrong here...) I stopped drinking drip soon after I had started, due to the inherent layering in the cup. It starts off beautifully, with more body and similar aromas as a vac pot, but then moves off into the realm of severe bitterness. I detest that in drip. Besides, I can get similar body and consistent flavours in an americano. For me, the alternatives are better. But I am sure that when prepared properly (I have not witnessed the results of a Technivorm or a Clarity) I would be wowed by the difference. Mr. Coffee just doesn't do.

 
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Posted Mon May 16, 2005, 12:00pm
Subject: Re: Why do many CoffeeGeeks dislike drip coffee?
 

In my opinion I think you are more likely to get a poor espresso than a poor drip coffee.  

I happen to like brewed coffee.  I have become partial to french press and vacuum over drip but if done well drip is can be very good.  

I like espresso but I can't seem to give up on regular brewed coffee.  
Armed with a roaster, good green beans and good brewing equipment my regular brewed coffee is staple on my coffee menu.
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Posted Mon May 16, 2005, 8:31pm
Subject: Re: Why do many CoffeeGeeks dislike drip coffee?
 

scubadoo97 Said:

Armed with a roaster, good green beans and good brewing equipment my regular brewed coffee is staple on my coffee menu.

Posted May 16, 2005 link

Amen.  I love drip coffee.

My favorite drip brewer was a Cuisinart Grind & Brew… it died.  I bought a newer model and used it for a few weeks.  The brew temp was too low.

I swear the first one I owned must have been manufactured on a blessed day

With a low brew temp, I have trouble tasting all of the flavors in my home roast.  That makes me not want to roast, which makes me buy coffee from the grocery store, which reminds me why home roasted coffee is so much better, which makes me not want to drink coffee, which makes me sad and withdrawn, which makes me buy a new brewing device.

I’ve wasted way too much money on coffee paraphernalia.  I’m too full of hate to waste any more.

I like my Hario Nouveau… even if I’ve broken and replaced every part except for the base…

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Posted Tue May 17, 2005, 4:35am
Subject: Re: Why do many CoffeeGeeks dislike drip coffee?
 

I love espresso at home (Zaffiro, Rocky grinder, iRoast), but at work I use a
Mellita filter cone, and a Capresso whirly blade grinder all for the sake of simplicity.
I brew with water directly from a spring water dispenser with a hot water tap.
With my own home-roasted coffees this arrangement gives great results and
is super quick. I think there might be a difference between brands of filter paper
as to how much paper taste winds up in the coffee. With the right filters, there
is no paper taste. I also have a gold metal filter, but that's more to clean up.
  By the way, the Capresso grinder is an impressive little unit with a much more
uniform grind than my previous Krups blade grinder. Compared to the Krups, the
Capresso grinds slower, but the particles are much more uniform, and very little
dust is created. It wouldn't work well for espresso probably, but for drip it's good.

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