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Posted Thu Feb 20, 2014, 11:55pm
Subject: A strange theroy I heard of
 

Somewhere in other part of the world I saw a quote
"Espresso is blended, not roasted"
Its hard to believe, first ignore the grammatical mistakes
Nice espresso blend can produce nice coffee, I agree
But if the beans are not roasted to the optimal level and taste, can blending reverse the bad taste?
And what about single origin espresso?

For open discussion, thank you :)
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Posted Fri Feb 21, 2014, 2:44am
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Not sure what you mean.  

The very nature of blending is to develop flavor profiles of roasts that would otherwise be inferior as an SO roast.
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Posted Fri Feb 21, 2014, 5:37am
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A terse statement such as "espresso is blended, not roasted" can be taken as a logical statement containing two propositions (blended versus roasted), in order to imply that one supercedes the other.

In this case, we may infer that, of the two processes, good blending is rarer, harder to achieve, and/or more important in producing quality espresso, than the effects of roast.

OF COURSE the quality of the roasting is important, but we may also infer that, by comparison, good roasting is more common (perhaps not, thanks to *$), and more available than 'wizardry' in blending.  We can further infer that even excellent quality in roasting may produce only mediocre espresso if not blended well.

This opens up a whole argument about the current practice of offering single origin roasts as espresso drinks versus blends.
The ability of the espresso extraction to 'open up' the complex taste profile of a roast compared to brewing allows one to really 'get into' the total character of the interaction of the bean (ie, plantation, variety, climate) and the roast of a single origin.

If I may offer my own preference, I am not as curious and analytical as I am hedonistic and indulgent when I make a cup of espresso; therefore, I shun most single-origin offerings as subpar and go for the blend, if I have a choice.

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Posted Fri Feb 21, 2014, 6:33pm
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Context sir, context. However, I believe its utilizing irony (sarcasm) to make a point. Its safe to assume the quote knows that you have to roast coffee in order to make espresso, while explicitly stating its not roasting that makes espresso. I don't think its trying to say roasting isn't important, but perhaps that blending an espresso is an entirely unique thing among roasting and or coffee culture.

e.g. "Whiskey is blended, not aged" - most whiskey is blended, but not all in the case of single barrels, but all whiskey is definately aged.

As far as the tasting side of it goes. I think single origins are like short stories with a few characters and alot of vivid detail; blends are more complex stories with more characters but not as much detail-per-character, but more characters present more potential for "interaction" and developement beyond their base selves. [/coffee romanticism]
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Posted Sat Feb 22, 2014, 3:43am
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While it may not be exactly true, doesn't Maxwell House have an Espresso Roast Coffee? The quote is saying Espresso is a process (blending beans) for making a coffee beverage not a degree of roast.
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Posted Thu Mar 6, 2014, 8:23am
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Espresso is a by-product of ground roasted beans and water. its is like going to a coffee house, not a roaster and ask what kind of beans are in the Frrench roast, Italian roast, they will all most always say French beans or Italian beans. Ask the same question about the Espresso roasted beans and they look at you like, WT_ you talking about.
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Posted Thu Mar 6, 2014, 9:02am
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steamer Said:

Espresso is a by-product of ground roasted beans and water. its is like going to a coffee house, not a roaster and ask what kind of beans are in the Frrench roast, Italian roast, they will all most always say French beans or Italian beans. Ask the same question about the Espresso roasted beans and they look at you like, WT_ you talking about.

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You need to upgrade your coffee house if all they can tell you about the beans is they are "French beans" or "Italian beans".  LOL  Unfortunately that may be the case at too many places.

Pazu Said:

"Espresso is blended, not roasted"

Posted February 20, 2014 link

Espresso Blend = a blend of beans roasted to compliment each other in the espresso cup
Espresso Roast = an (American?) nomenclature for roasted beans that are cooked/burned until they look like a pitch black espresso.  These roasts typically make a horrible espresso in the cup.  I think the idea is these are so dark and burned that even drip coffee will taste like a terrible $tarbuck$ shot!
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Posted Thu Mar 6, 2014, 10:38am
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I suppose it could depend on how you read the statement as a coffee for espresso can be made from combining numerous bean origins for a "profile" and batch roasting the whole lot together or -if you have the ability- each origin bean batch can be roasted to its own set amount and then the roasted beans combined in the desired proportions with the other origins so that no bean is "overroasted" or "underroasted" for the desired profile for that origin.
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Posted Thu Mar 6, 2014, 3:38pm
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DanoM Said:

You need to upgrade your coffee house if all they can tell you about the beans is they are "French beans" or "Italian beans".

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Agreed, but I don't think I have ever been told that . . .

 
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Posted Sat Mar 8, 2014, 7:51am
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z0mbie Said:

Not sure what you mean.  

The very nature of blending is to develop flavor profiles of roasts that would otherwise be inferior as an SO roast.

Posted February 21, 2014 link

That's my understanding as well but you still need properly roasted beans before blending, otherwise a good blend cannot be made.
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