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branmuffin17
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Posted Mon Jan 20, 2014, 4:28pm
Subject: In Tastebuds We Trust
 

My story of the day:

So I had ordered Intelligentsia's Black Cat Analog Espresso beans for the second time, having been very pleased with the first batch.  Got the shipment, put a pound into my bean storage container and commenced with drinking.  First shot timing was great, but I thought the taste was noticeably different.  Had just talked with Wayne, who said that Intelligentsia's beans might vary batch to batch based on their use of whatever beans they have available, so didn't really think twice...but I did notice, besides taste, that the beans looked a bit lighter in roast level, and were definitely a bit denser (16 grams didn't quite fill up my basket like the previous batch).

As I got down to the bottom of the first pound, pulled out the second bag to refill, and did a double-take when I realized that they sent me their Classic rather than Analog.  Aha!

So I contacted them, and I've now got a replacement shipment incoming =)  But I guess I should trust my tastebuds a bit more.  It's awesome finding out that I can in fact tell the difference in beans, hahaha.

And just an FYI, I definitely prefer the Analog beans.  Extremely rich and chocolatey!
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Posted Wed Jan 22, 2014, 10:46pm
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Interesting to hear that, because I'm drinking classic right now.  I went to Intelly in Chicago and asked for a double shot and a bag of whatever he pulled for me.  So he pulled a classic and I bought a classic.  At intelly, the shot was amazing.  Really well balanced, but more acid/citrus notes than I expected.  On my home machine, I'm brewing tasty stuff, but not quite as well balanced as in the shop, and I'm having a hard time dialing down the citrus, which I'm getting even more of at home.  Maybe a switch to Analog is the right move for the next go around.
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Posted Thu Jan 23, 2014, 2:20pm
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Hey JerDGold,

The taste you're getting is pretty much what I'm experiencing, I think.  This would go along with my guess (because I didn't have the beans side by side for visual comparison) that the new beans (that turned out to be the Classic) are lighter roast in comparison to Analog.  I'd guess that the Classic is a bit closer to medium, and Analog is probably medium-dark.

On the website, suggested roast temp for the Classic is 1 degree F higher than Analog (200 vs. 199).  My machine has temp control at 1 degree C, so I can't get that precise, but I usually get beans that are closer to medium-dark, so I just leave it at 93 C (199.4 F).  Have you tried increasing temp just a bit for the Classic?

Let me know how you like Analog, if you get it!


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Posted Thu Jan 23, 2014, 9:29pm
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Well I'm running a non-PID silvia, however, that being said, yes.  I have attempted brewing at what I believe to be a higher temperature than I would normally use.  Basically, when the Silvia is at her highest temp, I flush to boiling-temp water for about 1.5-2sec and then brew right away, and I'm still getting serious bright notes.  Tomorrow AM I plan to try lowering my dose from 16g to about 14.5g and tightening up my grind a bit and see what that yields me.
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