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eelpout
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Posted Sun Dec 1, 2013, 1:14pm
Subject: Bird Rock Roasters?
 

Anyone have any experience with pulling shots with Bird Rock Roaster's coffees, they're out of La Jolla. I've heard great things about their 50/50 so thought I'd try them out.

My Vario-W & Bric has never met a blend so light and porous. I have their 50/50's, both medium and dark and their Monkey Bite espresso. I can't get any of them to come in slower than 15 seconds with a double at the finest grind setting of 1A (and I've tried up to 22 grams). I've already calibrated the Vario-W months ago to grind finer than their standard when I first received it. Hate to turn that screw any further.

So I'm curious if I'm the only one who is finding this with their coffees. The only reference to dosing I've found is a 22 gram shot at ~25 seconds. I'm going to shoot them an email to get their feedback. Maybe my Vario-W simply isn't up to it.
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eelpout
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Posted Mon Dec 2, 2013, 10:02am
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Here's some of the response from Bird Rock:

"We do use between 26-29 grams coffee coffee in the porta-filter though, which might not sound like a lot more than you are using but that will have a significant impact on your extraction -- assuming your pressure is stable on your machine and you are applying about 40 pounds of tamp pressure.  And, you should be able to grind fine enough with your grinder so that should not be the problem.  So, right off the bat, I would say to increase your dose.

For us, we start to see extraction at about 9 seconds and a finished restretto shot at about 22-25 seconds.  The espresso is designed for small, tight shots of goodness.  Hope that helps.  Certainly, we stand behind everything we sell and we field test the Monkey Bit 100s of times a day in our coffee bar but if you don't like it, we can send you something else."

So, a small intsene shot with the Monkey Bite and they also said I should save the 50/50's for drip as it likely be too sour for espresso. My triple basket can fit the amount of coffee they describe so I'll have to experiment some more.

Great guys for responding so quickly and thoroughly! :)
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Posted Mon Dec 9, 2013, 7:36am
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I was just out in San Diego and Bird Rock was the best  I came across out there by leaps an bounds. Having said that, their roast didn't blow me away- mellow, smooth, understated chocolaty flavor. Kinda got lost in the milk if you get a Latte. Seems like a solid operation though, so I guess at that point it's personal preference. It was refreshing to go to a place that had good baristas. We take that for granted in NYC because we have so many good espresso options.
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Posted Mon Dec 9, 2013, 12:12pm
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Better Buzz Lab on Mission Beach was really good too.
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Posted Fri Dec 13, 2013, 7:48am
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CMIN Said:

Better Buzz Lab on Mission Beach was really good too.

Posted December 9, 2013 link

Ya, totally agree.
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Posted Thu Feb 20, 2014, 9:42am
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I just picked up a pound of Monkey Bite a couple days ago, the shot I had at Bird Rock was great. I'll probably try brewing some tomorrow since it was roasted only 2 days ago right now.
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