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ReecesPieces
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Posted Sun Oct 27, 2013, 1:57pm
Subject: Origins suitable for espresso
 

I'm just getting into coffee and have purchased my first espresso machine, a Gaggia Carezza. I am still trying to decide on a grinder, so for now I will have to buy coffee every few days and have them grind it at the shop. What I'm  wondering is what origins are best suited to espresso? For my pourover coffee I use a Costa Rican Tarrazu, which suits both my boyfriend and myself perfectly, and for my mokka pot I have been using a Sumatra Mandheling, which we were happy with but would like to keep searching. I'm truly new enough that I'm not sure what direction to try next. I know the Tarrazu is on the light end, so not ideal for espresso, and the Mandheling is darker, but isn't quite my perfect flavor profile. Any advice on what I should try or easy to understand resources that offer some education on the topic? Thanks for your help!
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Posted Sun Oct 27, 2013, 2:13pm
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Welcome to CG.  

If you are new to Espresso, you may wish to read this.

http://www.espressomyespresso.com/

    12 - EASY GUIDE TO BETTER ESPRESSO AT HOME

Is the Gaggia new, or just new to you?

The least expensive espresso capable grinder is the Baratza Preciso refurb from

http://www.baratza.com/

It will grind fine and adjust fine enough.  Many supposed grinders grind fine enough, or too fine, but do not adjust to keep in the proper grind.  Fresh coffee roasted under 15 days age and used in 15 minutes of grind will often be repeated on the forum.  You cannot get good results from preground.

Is the basket and or portafilter pressurized?

Please do not be offended at the questions or suggestions, we are all here to help.

 
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ReecesPieces
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Posted Sun Oct 27, 2013, 6:14pm
Subject: Re: Origins suitable for espresso
 

I'm not offended at all, I appreciate the help and wouldn't know what variables to mention. It's used but excellent condition according to the ad. I bought it based on the price and the reviews on this site versus other machines in its price range.  I'm not sure if either the portafilter or basket are pressurized but I assume not since I haven't seen it mentioned in anything I've read. I will definitely check out that site and keep my eyes open for a good used baratza.
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SJM
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Posted Sun Oct 27, 2013, 6:39pm
Subject: Re: Origins suitable for espresso
 

I'm pretty sure the Carezza preceeded the advent of pressurized nonsense.

edit:  Mea culpa.  
Looks like even the Carezza now comes with a pressurized basket.
Click Here (community.gaggia-usa.com)

What is the world coming to???  Is nothing sacred???
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ReecesPieces
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Posted Sun Oct 27, 2013, 6:51pm
Subject: Re: Origins suitable for espresso
 

The pressurized baskets and portafilters are essentially to allow anyone, regardless of lack of skill, to get a decent shot with crema and be more forgiving of the variables, correct?
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Posted Sun Oct 27, 2013, 7:15pm
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yes, but the crema is fake froth rather than true crema.  But lots of people got into this with those machines.

 
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Posted Sun Oct 27, 2013, 7:17pm
Subject: Re: Origins suitable for espresso
 

A little research shows me that there is a model called a Carezza Prestige;  is that what you have?
Click Here (www.p4c.philips.com)

Or do you have an older "real" Carezza?
Click Here (www.google.com)
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ReecesPieces
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Posted Sun Oct 27, 2013, 7:27pm
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I have  the older carezza.
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Posted Sun Oct 27, 2013, 7:30pm
Subject: Re: Origins suitable for espresso
 

Perfect Crema, pressurized, baskets have 2 bottoms and a bit of space between and use a removable piece in the PF central exit spout.  The double non-pressurized that you should use clearly has a single wall bottom and nothing in the PF exit.  Especially with a used machine you could have either.

 
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Posted Sun Oct 27, 2013, 8:02pm
Subject: Re: Origins suitable for espresso
 

I'll say it once more...get yourself a good grinder!

Now, back to your original question...espresso is a method. Light roast, dark roast, doesn't really matter. Any bean type can be used. Having said that, most 'spro is made with a blend and mostly the roast is medium to slightly dark. Brazils are pretty heavily used in some of the better blends I've tried, and I really like the Daterras I've had as s.o. espresso.

 
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