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Foggers
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Posted Tue Jul 23, 2013, 7:30pm
Subject: Hi Everyone and Caffeine Question
 

Hi All,

This is my first post and I hope some day to give back meaningfully to the discussion.   There's a lot to learn and this site has been incredible.   My only experience so far has been super-auto Jura Capressos so I've never even pulled a shot yet!  
Thanks to the comments here I decided on a used Super Jolly and am looking at DBs this week.  

My question is, the other day an experienced barista pulled me an delightful shot of medium roasted Whole Foods espresso but the caffeine about knocked me over later.   I've been using dark roasted without issues.

Is this typical of medium roasted beans?
Is there a lower caffeine but still excellent pre-roasted bean you'd recommend?    

Or should I quit right now, sell the Jolly and be forever deprived?   (no, no!)

Thanks everyone in advance.
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Posted Thu Jul 25, 2013, 8:36pm
Subject: Re: Hi Everyone and Caffeine Question
 

I suspect you experienced that knock over for two reasons.. one, the Jura more than likely uses considerably less dose of coffee per volume than a barista using a proper machine would. In fact, I don't think I've come across any cafes here in the states that are using "real" or "serious" equipment that use single dose baskets. Most are using 14-20g of coffee per 1.5-2.0oz where a Jura is more along 7-10g per 1.0-1.5oz. Second, the darker a bean is roasted, the less caffeine it will contain. Light, medium, and dark are all so relative that's it's hard to answer your direct question.

You'd better start drinking more coffee if a shot of real espresso knocked you over! I wonder if it's possible to pull a triple shot of a light roasted coffee and have it contain more than a brewed cup of coffee (which in my understanding will always have more caffeine extracted per serving than an espresso).

My number may be off, but here's generally how I stack the caffeine numbers up in my head:
Standard espresso: 40mg
Double espresso: 80mg
Jura espresso with a dark roasted coffee: 30-50mg
Pour over coffee 8oz: 80-150mg or 12oz 120-160mg
Starbucks 20oz: 300mg (IIRC)
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Foggers
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Posted Fri Jul 26, 2013, 4:07pm
Subject: Re: Hi Everyone and Caffeine Question
 

Hi Myallawala,

Thanks for the info, really appreciate it.  That's a handy cheat sheet there...  
Dang, look at the caffeine in a Starbuck's, whew

I think you nailed the reason for the knockdown (lol, love the term):   I usually make small shots in the Jura using "espresso roasts" that tend to be darker.   And they're spaced apart.    I probably got my caffeine level up, and adding a "real" espresso did the trick.

With that I'm going to go back to shopping for a machine.

This might be blasphemy, but are there any beans out there that have a little caffeine washed away?   (ducking my head at the tampers being chucked my way)
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Posted Sun Jul 28, 2013, 9:36am
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My understanding is that Red bird has a very nice decaff roast. There are others that have nice decaff.  I don't drink it but I understand the need for it.  I drink one to two espressos a day and that is perfect.  I would rather have less of the real stuff than more of the light....  But I get why some people would rather decaff.

 
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Posted Sun Jul 28, 2013, 1:51pm
Subject: Re: Hi Everyone and Caffeine Question
 

Thanks Coffeenoobie for the recommendation.  I'll start there.
 
Yes, I agree with your point.  I think I have a caffeine sensitivity, so maybe a real one followed by a decaf or two would work.  Will see how it shakes out.  

Thanks again.
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