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Providence
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Posted Tue Jul 6, 2004, 12:26pm
Subject: Paradise Roasters
 

If you haven't tried Paradise Roasters Espresso and Decaf Espressos let me recommend that you do.  They are both delicious as espresso or cappuccino.

The roast is more in line with northern Italian....read more about it at Coffee Review.

This coffee shot right to the top of my list of favorites.
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Posted Fri Jul 9, 2004, 3:07pm
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im going to bounce this post back to the top, because i saw Ken Davids gave this 93 points, the highest ever given to an espresso.  has anyone else tried this?

im considering buying some
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Posted Mon Jul 12, 2004, 12:18pm
Subject: Re: Paradise Roasters
 

I was really interested in trying some of their espresso but elected not to after talking to them about shipping. I live two states away in MO and they said it would be four days in transit. They use USPS and charge $7.05 to ship two bags (they package in 14oz bags). When I asked for UPS the lady said she would have to check but the rates would be more.
I hate the thought of my beans spending time in a hot truck and pinpointing delivery is important to me. So, much as I'd like to try their highly-rated coffee, I'll pass and use Intelligentsia!
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Providence
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Posted Mon Jul 12, 2004, 1:49pm
Subject: Re: Paradise Roasters
 

I was a little disappointed in the delivery service provided, but I can tell you it is delicious despite the wait.  Also, I just moved so my package sat a day or two in the post office.  It is a coffee well worth trying.

My recollection is, unless things have changed, that Intelligentsia's delivery if fairly long as well.  The speediest that I recall is Espresso Vivace.  Am I wrong about Intel?
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Posted Mon Jul 12, 2004, 2:18pm
Subject: Re: Paradise Roasters
 

I like Intelligentsia's system. They tell you exactly when a given order will be roasted and shipped.  I get the coffee two days after its roasted which, to me, is about the correct amount of rest. Years ago, I ordered from Peet's and they were very precise. They offered UPS 2-day for just a couple bucks over ground.
I home roast but am finding it difficult to obtain consistant results, even using SM's pre-blends. As always, the search for perfection goes on.
Would be interested in hearing about your experience with Vivace as I've not tried his coffee. Seattle and other west coast outfits take four days at least via UPS. Again, some of the best life of the beans spent in a hot truck.
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Posted Mon Jul 12, 2004, 3:07pm
Subject: Re: Paradise Roasters
 

I got my best mail time yet from paradise, 1 lb via flat rate priority envelope. They added a buck to the $3.85 flat rate. It is lighter than anything else I've tried, thought it was too light at first, but after a couple days I was pulling shot after shot, and the bag was gone twice as fast as usual. I ordered right after Ken Davids put out his review, and I think they were crushed with orders, so I think it was the freshest beans I've gotten via mail order yet as well. Worth trying.
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Posted Mon Jul 12, 2004, 5:47pm
Subject: Re: Paradise Roasters
 

Initially we had a few hiccups, but recently (as in June 26th, 2004) we moved to a system that gets you your coffee very quickly.  If you order by Midnight, Sunday-Thursday, your coffee is roasted and shipped the next day.  If you order on Friday or Saturday, your coffee is roasted on Sunday and shipped on Monday.  Thanks for listening.

Doug Zell
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Posted Mon Jul 12, 2004, 7:56pm
Subject: Re: Paradise Roasters
 

To toms
Vivace is very nice.  To me it is similar in taste to Paradise but not quite as bright.  I have to give Intelligensia another try.  I prefer Oromo over Black Cat.
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Posted Wed Jul 14, 2004, 10:36am
Subject: Re: Paradise Roasters
 

Thanks for the info. That high rating in the Coffee Review is tempting so I may break down and give them a try. I hate to have to pay for roasted beans plus shipping but may have to. I think for good results home roasting I might have to buy all the coffees for a blend and roast them separately before blending. That would compound my problem as I try to tweak my machine and grinder
There sure are a lot of folks that like the Black Cat Blend. I havent had any since getting my new machine. I may have spoke too soon about Intelligentsia, though. I ordered a couple pounds and asked that it be sent out today. Tried a phone order Monday but never got a live body so I left a voicemail, then placed the order online to be sure and put my instructions in the comments. Got a UPS message that the coffee was sent out yesterday. I emailed Intelligentsia and asked why they didn't send it like I asked and they wrote back and said they'd, "remind the person who's supposed to read the comments to read them". Guess one day is not that big a deal but I'm fussy about freshness.
Anyway...I'll see who can provide the best blend, and do it on time. Both Vivace and Cafe d'Arte have been accomodating, even offering to send samples.
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Posted Tue Jul 27, 2004, 8:00pm
Subject: Re: Paradise Roasters
 

toms Said:

I Would be interested in hearing about your experience with Vivace as I've not tried his coffee. Seattle and other west coast outfits take four days at least via UPS. Again, some of the best life of the beans spent in a hot truck.

Posted July 12, 2004 link

I have opened a bag of Vita yesterday, that I have bought 2 weeks ago from Vivace, and you should see the crema, if I have time tomorrow morning I will try to take a pict of a pull.

 
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