Ancamo Senior Member Joined: 23 Jun 2006 Posts: 157 Location: Gatineau,Qc Canada Expertise: I love coffee
Espresso: Gaggia Classic Grinder: Baratza Vario Vac Pot: Yama 5 cups Drip: Aeoropress / CCD Roaster: POPPERY I / SC-TO
Posted Tue Dec 20, 2011, 10:59am Subject: What makes my home roast coffee so much better than local roaster's fresh beans?
I don't understand why the coffee I buy from Sweet Maria and roast in my Poppery I is "so much" better then what the local roasters have to offer They actually do a good job at roasting on demand small batches and deliver 4-5 days post roast…. I mean their coffee tastes better than anything you can buy from the grocery store or any pre-ground
I don't know what it is but the quality in the cup is nothing close to my home roasted coffee, and by no means this is a bragging exercice…..
I don't want to name the places but some are online and offer fresh roasted coffee at a good price….and others are in town shop that roast in the store and sell for a premium price….
What could it be?
- Is it that the local roaster doesn't have access to the same bean quality as Tom at Sweet Maria, is it all in the quality of the bean it self. I suspect that here in Canada, the local roasters buy their beans from large resellers that sell medium quality beans that are already pretty old and blended with even lower quality beans. I mean good roasters obviously have access to better beans, ther's a lot of good artisan roaster in Canada, but they are probably the exception and bypass those large resellers….Again this is just a guess….
- Is it Tom's blending skills? It probably plays a good part….
- Is it that the local roaster doesn't know how to roast or has poor roasting equipment? Man I'm using a freaking popcorn machine that I set to ON and wait 5 minutes. Maybe they roast too dark ?
- Is it that they buy big batches of green beans and store them for way too long, like many years before roasting?
What do you think makes this much a difference between what I roast at home and what is available locally or online from stores that are not considered artisan roasters like (Social Coffee, Transcend coffee…or Intelli and Counter Culture ) in the States
Posted Tue Dec 20, 2011, 1:29pm Subject: What makes my home roast coffee so much better than local roaster's fresh beans?
Ancamo Said:
What do you think makes this much a difference between what I roast at home and what is available locally or online from stores that are not considered artisan roasters like (Social Coffee, Transcend coffee…or Intelli and Counter Culture ) in the States
The main reason is that they're buying "C" grade (commodity) lots (37,500 lbs) of coffee from big coffee brokers. The C Coffee future contracts trade under the symbol “KC” and in lot or contract sizes of 37,500 pounds of coffee beans. Obviously not micro lots, relationship coffees directy from the farmer/grower, single origin coffees, etc.
Posted Tue Dec 20, 2011, 1:40pm Subject: What makes my home roast coffee so much better than local roaster's fresh beans?
Depends if you're talking broker or re-seller prices. It's all out there on the internet Pascal. I've posted this all before, but the KC NYBOT (New York Board Of Trade) prices currently for one "C" lot of 37,500 is $2.22/lb. The coffee brokers price would be higher.
Posted Tue Dec 20, 2011, 6:56pm Subject: Re: What makes my home roast coffee so much better ...
Ancamo Said:
I don't understand why the coffee I buy from Sweet Maria and roast in my Poppery I is "so much" better then what the local roasters have to offer. They actually do a good job at roasting on demand small batches and deliver 4-5 days post roast…. I mean their coffee tastes better than anything you can buy from the grocery store or any pre-ground
- Is it that the local roaster doesn't know how to roast or has poor roasting equipment? Man I'm using a freaking popcorn machine that I set to ON and wait 5 minutes. Maybe they roast too dark ?
I have tried a few local roasters, and over-roasting is the main problem I have found. They roast too dark because StarBucks and Caribou coffee also roast too dark. The local roasters want to deliver a similar product that matches what non-educated consumers normally drink.
Life is too short to drink bad wine (or bad coffee)
Posted Sat Dec 31, 2011, 5:47pm Subject: Re: What makes my home roast coffee so much better ...
I think there's a big difference between how we at home dial in our roast, grind, tamp and temp. I've had Black Cat at Intelligentsia in Silverlake and knew my shots at home were tastier. When we're pulling shots at home I think the anal factor increases by leaps and bounds for the 2 or 3 shots we do a day. I bet the same can be said about roasting. You dial in your roast for your machine, grind, tamp and temp. You've got control over factors that the artisan and craft roasters don't factor in. Imagine if you could grow your own beans, like the current WBC champ did in Hawaii. kind of cool...
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