javanj Senior Member Joined: 14 May 2006 Posts: 98 Location: Metro NYC Expertise: I love coffee
Espresso: Gaggia New Coffee, La Pavoni... Grinder: Rocky & Maestro Plus Drip: Melitta pour over & Gevalia...
Posted Sun Apr 20, 2008, 4:14pm Subject: Kid-0 Too Bright
I have been using Kid-0 roasted 4/14. Rocky Grinder & Gaggia Coffee. I'm making triple shots. I'm finding my drink, tasting too acidic or too "bright." I'm grinding slightly finer than for Black Cat. The crema is better on the finer grind but the taste not improved. Any suggestions?
The_Mighty_Bean Senior Member Joined: 24 Feb 2006 Posts: 458 Location: Bowie, MD Expertise: I love coffee
Espresso: "Beauty" (the gentle and... Grinder: Gi-normous Rossi RR45; 100... Vac Pot: I just got lectured about... Drip: French press purist, have a... Roaster: Borrowed HearthWare...
Posted Sun Apr 20, 2008, 4:19pm Subject: Re: Kid-0 Too Bright
Kid O is not a particularly bright blend, so I think you are pulling too cool. My suggestion is look up "reverse temperature surfing" on this website,. Using that technique, pull your shots of Kid O a little hotter than you have been.
Let Carlo Gaggia warm up longer this morning. No way I can temp surf, reverse or otherwise on a work-day morning. Kid was still bright ( I interpret that as more acidic and at risk of being sour) but not as bad as Sunday. Will continue to earnestly work my way through the pound.
roblumba Senior Member Joined: 30 Jan 2006 Posts: 349 Location: San Jose Expertise: I love coffee
Posted Sun Apr 27, 2008, 5:40am Subject: Re: Kid-0 Too Bright
A friend brought some over that was about 2 weeks old, nevertheless, we were pulling it at 203F. It was the first time trying this blend for me, but it did seem to pull better at hotter temperatures than the Black Cat.
SL28ave Senior Member Joined: 19 Mar 2004 Posts: 769 Location: Rockville, MD Expertise: I live coffee
Grinder: Baratza Virtuoso Drip: Technivorm
Posted Sun Apr 27, 2008, 7:48am Subject: Re: Kid-0 Too Bright
This is very hard to diagnose. Sounds like you'll be through that pound soon, too.
Silvia has treated me better than Gaggia. I don't know why. Is it possible to post a photo of one of these espressos, Javanj? Definitely try decreasing the dose by a couple grams. Since you're using a naked portafilter, be sure to mix the liquid and crema.
JimWright Senior Member Joined: 17 Jan 2006 Posts: 183 Location: SF Bay Area, CA
Espresso: LM GS/3, Estro Profi Grinder: Macap M7KR Vac Pot: Yama Drip: Other: Eva Solo, Press Pot
Posted Thu May 22, 2008, 10:25am Subject: Re: Kid-0 Too Bright
Did you ever come to a satisfactory solution? I actually preferred Kid O at temps several degrees cooler than other blends - 198ish if a non-scaced GS/3 can be trusted. Of course, YMMV - I dislike bitterness and probably tend to run my shots cooler than some to avoid it.
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