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coffeeinquirer
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Posted Sun Jan 19, 2014, 1:52pm
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What is a good starting point for drip coffee for the Baratza Vario?  I found off the Baratza website that a good grind setting to get started is 6M; however, when I tried this today, I found that my coffee tasted a bit bitter and watery.
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Posted Sun Jan 19, 2014, 3:47pm
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When you say drip do you mean pour over? And if so what type? Also how much are you making at a time? I have the baratza virtuoso and for most pour overs (v60, chemex, woodneck, etc) I use from 18-22 (slightly coarser than sand) Your brew ratio might be playing a large role in the watery part. I usually shoot for a 1:17 ratio.
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Posted Sun Jan 19, 2014, 5:17pm
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I'm sorry for not being more specific.  I am using the De'Longhi kMix DCM04 Coffee Maker, and making 5 cups.  What do you think about the grind setting?

Also, a little off topic, but if anyone can recommend a good roaster to order beans from, that would be great!
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Posted Sun Jan 19, 2014, 10:15pm
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Oh alright, well if your are using the metal mesh filter (that I believe comes with it) then I would do a grind more on the medium side. I don't know the lingo for the vario settings, but I think just at the filter mark should do. If there is sediment then it's obviously to fine though. As far as coffee ratio goes, I would use about 42 grams of coffee (perhaps around 7 tbs but I'm not sure). And Provided when you say 5 cups, I think it's actually 5 ounces per cup instead of the US 8 ounce cup.

Here's a few roaster's too:
http://www.vervecoffeeroasters.com/collections/coffee
http://www.bluebottlecoffee.com/t/categories/coffees
http://www.ritualroasters.com/store/
https://sightglasscoffee.com/store
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Posted Mon Jan 20, 2014, 12:19pm
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Yes, you are right about the ounces.  Thank you very much for your advice and the links!
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Posted Thu Jan 23, 2014, 6:37am
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Try these roasters
Click Here (www.home-barista.com)

 
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Posted Fri Jan 24, 2014, 10:39am
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coffeeinquirer Said:

...I found off the Baratza website that a good grind setting to get started is 6M; however, when I tried this today, I found that my coffee tasted a bit bitter and watery.

Posted January 19, 2014 link

In case you're still dialing in your grind -- I use a setting of 5P on my Vario when I grind for the Technivorm (that's with a paper filter). I use 1.75 grams of coffee per ounce of water. Important to note, I'm using steel burrs in the Vario. So I think a setting of 5P with steel burrs produces a slightly coarser grind than the same setting with ceramic. But I'm guessing on that, would be helpful to hear from others. Good luck!
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Posted Wed Jan 29, 2014, 9:06pm
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Still having trouble dialing it in... coffee is not watery, but still bitter. :(
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Posted Thu Jan 30, 2014, 1:42am
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Induction Said:

When you say drip do you mean pour over? And if so what type? Also how much are you making at a time? I have the baratza virtuoso and for most pour overs (v60, chemex, woodneck, etc) I use from 18-22 (slightly coarser than sand) Your brew ratio might be playing a large role in the watery part. I usually shoot for a 1:17 ratio.

Posted January 19, 2014 link

Thanks for your comment.. you answered my queries instead.. ;)
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kinbote
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Posted Thu Jan 30, 2014, 11:45am
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coffeeinquirer Said:

Still having trouble dialing it in... coffee is not watery, but still bitter. :(

Posted January 29, 2014 link

You could try grinding coarser ó on the Vario thatís in the 7-range or higher (macro setting). Or, you could go finer -- but if anything, that might increase the bitterness.

Also, your drip machine might want more/less coffee ó might help to adjust your coffee amounts and see what happens.

Either way, I wouldnít blame the Vario just yet. Test it out on a Chemex or French Press or a different drip machine (if possible). Itís a solid grinder, Iíd be surprised if itís the sole source of the problem. Good luck!
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