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Posted Mon Dec 16, 2013, 9:22pm
Subject: French press grind setting??
 

When I got some coffee at a local coffee factory, I asked them to give me a sample of their "French press setting" And to my surprise, it's pretty fine! Maybe like a notch or two coarser then a folgers grind. French press calls for "Coarse" Does a grind that fine seem appropriate? Well, folgers said you can brew their coffee in a french press...So a fine grind like that must be coarse enough. I dialed in a grind very similar to the sample, and I'm looking forward to trying the fine setting. I expect MUCH better results then this morning at 32! It was wayyy to coarse, but I wanted to try it anyway lol I'm going from setting 32 to almost 20 on my Baratza encore. The grind settings they used was "9" on a Ditting swiss retail grinder....

 
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Posted Mon Dec 16, 2013, 11:58pm
Subject: Re: French press grind setting??
 

You should have to apply about 10-15# pressure when you do a slow ~10sec plunge. If it's harder than that, you either steeped too long or the grind is too fine.

 
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Posted Tue Dec 17, 2013, 10:29am
Subject: Re: French press grind setting??
 

The coarsest setting on the Ditting grinders is the FP "9" This according to a post from Nethphilosopher, sadly no longer available on this forum is eqivalent to 22-23 on a Baratza Vario.

All grinders vary and yours is not the same model but it's probably a good place to start. It's what I would have used on my Maestro + a forebear of the Encore. IMHO you are better with a slightly finer setting on the Baratza grinders, even to the extent of a shorter brew time, since the grounds are more even than at the coarse settings.

Don't be afraid to go this fine. I use a commercial Mahlkoenig/Ditting (same company) and my first reactions were the same as yours that it was too fine, but now from time to time I would even go a notch or two finer (8.5 or 8.75) with a 4 minute steep.
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Posted Tue Dec 17, 2013, 2:37pm
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This morning's trial run was acceptable, The coffee is getting close to what I'm looking for. The flavor is coming through and their is more body on a finer grind. I think a notch or two finer should do the trick, and using a full pot too...Which requires more coffee= Stronger coffee.

 
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Posted Mon Dec 23, 2013, 8:42am
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Update: I went back and studied my sample of a coarse grind from The Roasterie...And I noticed the grind I was using from my grinder was much finer than the sample...Well that sure explains a lot. I was probably over extracting a tad or under extracting as the coffee wasn't up to par. I was using about 16 on my grinder and that's pretty fine, almost like an automatic grind such as Folgers or Maxwell house (I have both for another coffee drinker in the house) I went back to the earlier forum post I made about the grind setting and realized that the suggested setting was near 22-23 on the "Vario" Close to what a member on here said he used on his "Maestro+" Well, I guess i'm in the range now because 22 is the setting I found to be the closest in comparison to the Ditting swiss "9" Setting.

Anyways, I pondered getting a Espro press since my newest favorite coffee toy is the French Press. I would love to get one as they seem to be much better then a standard french press. But, they're sooo expensive. I'm my opinion I would love to own all kinds of brewers but that's to expensive and I barely have space now for my current brewers. My mom would think i'm nuts if I bought every coffee brewer known to man...lol It would be fun, but it would be hard decision every morning on which coffee brewer I wanna use!

 
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Posted Tue Dec 24, 2013, 7:13am
Subject: Re: French press grind setting??
 

Yeah, I totally get wanting to one one of everything. One day maybe I'll get a siphon brewer, though I pretty much feel done with drip...like, been there done that. In the morning though, there's no comparison for me to espresso.

 
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