knisse Senior Member Joined: 25 May 2013 Posts: 8 Location: Denmark Expertise: I love coffee
Posted Thu Oct 31, 2013, 7:54am Subject: Best filter coffee machine (is it possible to find a good one)?
I love testing new stuff, and i've just tried the Gaggia Brera automatic coffee machine, which i did NOT like - the coffee taste was not very good, and the cost of cleaning products would had been extremely high in the long run. I sold it pretty quickly.
So in stead, i have my old Hario Buono (electric) kettle, and a Bodum Bistro Grinder. The grinder is superb, but i would like to get an coffee machine to make the process easier in the morning - hence selling my electric kettle and my V1.
So, is it possible to get a good tasting brew from a filter coffee machine? Is the only one the Technivorm (moccamaster) or are there any challangers?
Just to add; i brew around 1-2 cup(s) a day. Which is why i am asking for any other than the Technivorm as i reckon it would be overkill for my needs.
Posted Thu Oct 31, 2013, 8:12am Subject: Re: Best filter coffee machine (is it possible to find a good one)?
The brewer referred to on here as "bonavita" is actually a 120v version of the long standing Melitta "Aroma Excellent" which is (or was) available in the original 230v version as either a vacuum flask version or a conventional glass jug, so any reviews you read about the bonavita are relevant to that as well.
I say "was" because I'm not sure it is still in their product line as they have introduced a new model "Aroma signature de-luxe". Like the Aroma Excellent, it has been accredited by the European Coffee Brewing Centre as meeting all their stringent test requirements. It's possible that having passed the old design onto Bonavita they've moved on to a newer design.
Posted Thu Oct 31, 2013, 3:35pm Subject: Re: Best filter coffee machine (is it possible to find a good one)?
Do you mean $US145 ? if so that is quite a good price for a Technivorm, and they are very very good machines. I do not think you will find a domestic machine that is better. I got a good deal a couple of years ago (in the UK) When Clas Ohlsson were clearly getting rid of their Technivorm stocks for eventually as low as £49 (including VAT). I bought 2 just to get a spare jug and filter and a third for one of my colleagues ;o)
I don't think there are any good small brewers, unfortunately. I have somewhere a Melitta Aromaboy which makes just 250ml - ideal for just one mugfull. Unfortunately, it only just manages to get up to temperature towards the very end of the brew, and the result isn't very good.
I haven't seen the Aroma signature de-luxe on sale here in the UK yet. At least one seller still stocks the *** obsolete Melitta "bonavita" version though for around £110 (about kr880 ?)
Edit *** correction, still shows as a current model on some of Melitta's European sites
GoodTwin Senior Member Joined: 5 Nov 2013 Posts: 5 Location: Germany Expertise: I love coffee
Posted Tue Nov 5, 2013, 4:03am Subject: Re: Best filter coffee machine (is it possible to find a good one)?
I think investing in an expensive machine isn't usually worth the money, cheep one's can get the job done as well and its less painful when they break down, and in my experience they all do. I just use a DeLonghi.
calblacksmith Moderator Joined: 25 Nov 2007 Posts: 8,169 Location: Riverside, Ca, U.S.A. Expertise: I live coffee
Espresso: ECM Vene. A1, La Cimbali M32 Grinder: Azkoyen Capriccio, Major Vac Pot: 40s era Silex Drip: Msl. Com. brewers Roaster: gave it a try, decided no
Posted Tue Nov 5, 2013, 10:16am Subject: Re: Best filter coffee machine (is it possible to find a good one)?
The problem with most inexpensive machines is that they do not get the water to the correct brew temp of 195 to 205 F, most don't come near the correct temp to brew coffee.
As above, for only one to two cup a day, a manual pour over is a very good way to go. An electric kettle and a cone is all you need. You don't even need the kettle if you have a stove. It will brew at the correct temp, is easy to clean and is perfect for a cup at a time brewing. Add to that the fact that they are very inexpensive and how could you ask for more?
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Samskara Senior Member Joined: 12 Jun 2009 Posts: 1 Location: New York Expertise: I like coffee
Espresso: I have one somewhere Grinder: Krups blade grinder Vac Pot: no, but I miss my Budum... Drip: Technivorm Moccamaster Roaster: I'm not that dedicated
Posted Mon Mar 17, 2014, 4:25pm Subject: Re: Best filter coffee machine (is it possible to find a good one)?
I'd like to expand on this question a bit. My Technivorm just broke down after years of faithful use, and I can't find a place to repair it (Boyd's seems to have changed loyalties). If I were convinced another Technivorm would be as long lived, I would just buy another, but I've heard of breakdowns within two years, So:
1 - does anyone know of a place to repair a Technivorm?
2 -- what sort of durability experience has anyone had with these machines? (mine is circa 2005)
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