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Posted Tue Aug 13, 2013, 3:38am
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jpender Said:

So then how are you consistently measuring the new one at 37.8g?

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Memorized average of several trials.  37 3/4 stuck in my head - or about a gram less than my oldest AP scoop.  Just how I categorized it in my head.

I just re-did this again, using a dropper to try and get consistently level measurement, my old AP scoop is a bit more than 39 grams.  Technical average is 39.4 based on 5 fills.  (I have to dry, re-check weight of the scoop and container, etc. each time).

The overall dimensions of the scoop don't support 36ml - at least the three I have.  Calculated dimensions are all right around 39-39.9 cc.

jpender Said:

...I asked this question of someone working at a well-respected, "List of our Favorite Roasters", place. This was someone behind the cash register, mind you. The line I got was that a matter of seconds in the roasting process can result in a significant difference in the end product, making occasional deviations unavoidable.

I was asking because I'd previously bought a bag that was so underroasted that the coffee I brewed with it tasted like alfalfa. I threw the beans away. But even if what I was told were true why did they put that coffee into bags and sell it? I didn't buy any of their beans for a long time after that. But this has happened to me elsewhere and I've wondered if home roasting might be an answer to this.

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I've certainly had my bad batches - especially early on and learning the quirks of the Behmor.  Alfalfa and grass were elements I was definitely familiar with. LOL  Lemony and tea-like are also common.  Sour is also a possibility.

BUT, once I fully understood 1st crack, and used a thermocouple to understand the temperatures, I have not underroasted accidentally since.  You can do home roasting starting out for about $50 (old breadmaker, some re-wiring, and a variable output heat gun).
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Posted Tue Aug 13, 2013, 11:50am
Subject: Re: Crowdsource Request - AP Scoop and 1/3 cup mass of Coffee?
 

Then it must be that they're trying to get really close to the edge. I had an espresso recently at this same place and it tasted like lemon juice. I suspected this was a symptom of the same philosophy.
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Posted Tue Aug 13, 2013, 1:01pm
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jpender Said:

Then it must be that they're trying to get really close to the edge. ..

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The anti-*$s/Peet's edge of burnt to edge of barely roasted, huh?
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Posted Sat Aug 17, 2013, 10:42am
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Starbucks Kati-Kati

AP scoop: 12.4g
1/3 cup: 24.8g
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Posted Thu Sep 5, 2013, 12:38pm
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Sumatra Mandeling, FC+/Vienna- home roasted.  (Mild oil slick on beans after 4 days).

AP scoop 13.8g

1/3 cup 27.2g
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Posted Fri Sep 20, 2013, 3:46am
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Folger's pre-ground 100% Colombian:

AP: 11.8g
1/3 cup: 23.8g

Dip and sweep method.
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