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Posted Sun Sep 8, 2013, 7:26am
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Just a quick question, What ratio Is 2 tablespoons per 6 oz? 1:17 1:16?

 
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Posted Sun Sep 8, 2013, 11:47am
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Depends on the spoon...
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Posted Sun Sep 8, 2013, 12:31pm
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How many g's are your tbs?
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Posted Sun Sep 8, 2013, 1:16pm
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13:1 give or take is what you are looking at

7g of beans is about a tablespoon.  2 tablespoons of coffee is about enough for a double espresso.  

10 g of coffee is 1.5 tablespoons of coffee give or take for drip.



What I use to brew
Double espresso: 14g coffee - 60g water (4:1 ratio)
Drip: 14g coffee to 240g water (17:1 ratio)
Press: 14g coffee to 420g water (30:1 ratio)

PS: None of this is "correct brewing amounts or math".

Grams / Water = Ratio.  This allows me to measure with a spoon for any brew technique.  Can be off by around .5g - 1.5g but always tastes good once I get the grinds right.
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Posted Sun Sep 8, 2013, 2:29pm
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Well my 2 tablespoons is 10 grams. And I notice my brewer finishes brewing before 4 minutes, meaning It's a little faster then it is supposed to be...And I think I may need to grind finer. My current grind setting is "16" on my encore. Seems kinda crazy to have to drop finer but I know that may help. The brewer doesn't hold enough water to fill the pot exactly up the the "8" line though...

 
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Posted Sun Sep 8, 2013, 11:49pm
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It depends on what you are measuring. Did you mean 2 tablespoon of coffee in a 6 oz. of water? 1 tablespoon is approximately 5.9 grams and it depends on how coffee is grind. For the water, if it is converted from oz. to grams that is 1 oz. equals to 28 grams. To determine how many tablespoon of coffee in a cup, 1 cup per 2 tablespoon of coffee is the appropriate ratio. Thus, the ratio can be 1:14.

 
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Posted Mon Sep 9, 2013, 4:20am
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Thecoffeenerd Said:

Well my 2 tablespoons is 10 grams. And I notice my brewer finishes brewing before 4 minutes, meaning It's a little faster then it is supposed to be...And I think I may need to grind finer. My current grind setting is "16" on my encore. Seems kinda crazy to have to drop finer but I know that may help. The brewer doesn't hold enough water to fill the pot exactly up the the "8" line though...

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Hmm. Is this a single brewer?  If so 17:1 (10g coffee to 180g water) is what you want.  Try grinding finer to slow the drip a bit more. Also if it already tastes good there's no problem.
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Posted Mon Sep 9, 2013, 8:11am
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Thecoffeenerd Said:

Just a quick question, What ratio Is 2 tablespoons per 6 oz? 1:17 1:16?

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2 tablespoons is the same as 1 fluid ounce, so the volume ratio is 1:6.

If you're talking about 2 tablespoons of coffee and 6 fluid ounces of water and you want to know the mass ratio of coffee to water you need to specify the packing density of the ground coffee as well as the temperature of the water. Coffee packing density can vary a lot, enough so that 2 Tbls of coffee "A" might weigh only 9 grams while 2 Tbls of coffee "B" might be 15 grams. Similarly, but not as dramatically, water density varies with temperature. At room temperature 6 fl oz of water weighs 177 grams but at 92C (200F) it weighs 171 grams. So the mass ratio of 2 Tbls of coffee per 6 fl oz of water could be anything between 1:11 and 1:20.

But I suspect your problem goes far beyond the brew ratio.
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Posted Mon Sep 9, 2013, 10:25am
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I can't get over how complicated this topic of ratio seems to get when you move away from metric.

It is unbelievably simple when you use a set of gram scales and weigh both the water and the coffee in grams. For coffee purposes the ratio is always a weight ratio.

A 1:17 ratio is lg of coffee to 17g of water. That's it.

This is the same ratio as 10g of coffee to 170g of water. This weight of water is close to 6fl oz or 177.44ml

1ml of water at 4C weighs 1g so weight and volume are more or less interchangeable at room temp (21C).

Weigh the water before you put it in the machine and use multiples of 170g if you must but really all you need to know is the weight of your water and divide by 17 to get the weight of coffee required.

eg if the capacity of your machine is 1200ml you need 1200g of water divided by 17 = 70g (actually 70.588...g)
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Posted Mon Sep 9, 2013, 11:17am
Subject: Re: 2 tablespoons per 6 oz is what ratio?
 

al_bongo Said:

I can't get over how complicated this topic of ratio seems to get when you move away from metric.

It is unbelievably simple when you use a set of gram scales and weigh both the water and the coffee in grams. For coffee purposes the ratio is always a weight ratio.

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+1  I tried to wrap my head around it all and gave up when I realized that there's no right answer so I went back to gram to gram ratio and adjusted by taste and grind.  I don't even weigh my water anymore. I get consistent results sticking to 18:1 for drip, 4:1 espresso & 30:1, 3 min for press. :)

thecoffeenerd, Simple answer to this thread is adjust to taste with what you already got.  If it's too weak dial finer.  setting 16 on the encore is pretty course.  I use a different grinder daily but I was pulling unpressurized espresso at setting 5.  I'd try between 8-12, closer to 8.  Fine grip grind is flavorful.

I use a 7g scoop like this for dosing.
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