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AustinJerry
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Posted Fri Jul 12, 2013, 12:41pm
Subject: Am I using enough ground coffee in my drip maker?
 

I use fresh-ground recently-roasted coffee in a Cuisinart DTC-975 thermal coffeemaker.  For the last several years, I have used the following coffee/water ratio:  I fill the coffee machine to the 7-cup mark, and grind four heaping 1/8 cup scoops of fresh coffee beans.  Recently, wanting to improve my coffee-making skills, I have experimented with a French press and a pour-over single-cup brewer.  Both in this forum and in other sources, I see mention of the "rule" to use 1.75 grams of coffee per ounce of water.  So, I measured the amount of water I have been using in the drip coffeemaker, which is 38 ounces of water.  Following the "rule", this suggests using 67 grams of coffee, which is almost eight scoops of coffee, rather than the four scoops I have been using.

This seems like a lot of coffee.  Or is it that the amount of coffee used in a French press and a single-cub brewer is more than should be used in a drip coffeemaker?  The coffee I have been brewing is dark, strong, and full-flavored using only four scoops.  I'm confused.
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Posted Sat Jul 13, 2013, 7:47am
Subject: Re: Am I using enough ground coffee in my drip maker?
 

That Is quite a lot of coffee to use. I did that once too! Try using 1183 milliliters of water to 50 grams of coffee assuming you have a scale. That Is roughly 40 ounces of water...And that should work just fine.

 
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Posted Sat Jul 13, 2013, 8:05am
Subject: Re: Am I using enough ground coffee in my drip maker?
 

AustinJerry Said:

I use fresh-ground recently-roasted coffee in a Cuisinart DTC-975 thermal coffeemaker.  For the last several years, I have used the following coffee/water ratio:  I fill the coffee machine to the 7-cup mark, and grind four heaping 1/8 cup scoops of fresh coffee beans.  Recently, wanting to improve my coffee-making skills, I have experimented with a French press and a pour-over single-cup brewer.  Both in this forum and in other sources, I see mention of the "rule" to use 1.75 grams of coffee per ounce of water.  So, I measured the amount of water I have been using in the drip coffeemaker, which is 38 ounces of water.  Following the "rule", this suggests using 67 grams of coffee, which is almost eight scoops of coffee, rather than the four scoops I have been using.

This seems like a lot of coffee.  Or is it that the amount of coffee used in a French press and a single-cub brewer is more than should be used in a drip coffeemaker?  The coffee I have been brewing is dark, strong, and full-flavored using only four scoops.  I'm confused.

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That is actually a very appropriate ratio.  It would be 1:16 coffee:water, which is exactly what I use. Some people prefer around 17.  you will see 17.4 on here a lot, which would be 2.18 oz or 61.1 g for the amount of water you are using. The ratio should not change significantly from one method to the next.


Thecoffeenerd Said:

That Is quite a lot of coffee to use. I did that once too! Try using 1183 milliliters of water to 50 grams of coffee assuming you have a scale. That Is roughly 40 ounces of water...And that should work just fine.

Posted July 13, 2013 link

That is very weak.  For that amount of water, you should be using at least 68g, and I would use 74g personally. I have seen you post frequently about how your coffee isn't comin out right.  This is probably one of the reasons.
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Posted Sat Jul 13, 2013, 9:07am
Subject: Re: Am I using enough ground coffee in my drip maker?
 

Thecoffeenerd Said:

That Is quite a lot of coffee to use. I did that once too! Try using 1183 milliliters of water to 50 grams of coffee assuming you have a scale. That Is roughly 40 ounces of water...And that should work just fine.

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17:1 is a good normal ratio, but like mentioned your not using enough coffee imo which couldbe why your post point to poor coffee. Yours would be a really weak cup, have you tried dosing more?
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Posted Sat Jul 13, 2013, 9:28am
Subject: Re: Am I using enough ground coffee in my drip maker?
 

I know that Is a weak ratio but, the company that makes my coffee maker said that was an extreme amount of coffee. Since using a lot less coffee It has been much better then It was. But I do this because It's my personal taste...It tastes fine to me. Originally It was just too strong for my palate and I didn't realize It. I use 2 tablespoons to 8 ounces of water. Try using 74 grams of coffee to 1242 milliliters of water If you're looking for very strong coffee...I have a ratio chart I use for drip.

 
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Posted Sat Jul 13, 2013, 9:50am
Subject: Re: Am I using enough ground coffee in my drip maker?
 

That is actually a very appropriate ratio.  It would be 1:16 coffee:water, which is exactly what I use. Some people prefer around 17.  you will see 17.4 on here a lot, which would be 2.18 oz or 61.1 g for the amount of water you are using. The ratio should not change significantly from one method to the next.

Sorry for the late response--I though I had turned on email notifications, but I didn't.

I drink 4-5 cups of coffee in the morning.  Anything stronger than what you call a "weak" amount gives me a caffeine headache.  Doubling the ratio would surely launch me into orbit.  Perhaps I am more sensitive than normal...
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Posted Sat Jul 13, 2013, 12:22pm
Subject: Re: Am I using enough ground coffee in my drip maker?
 

AustinJerry Said:

I drink 4-5 cups of coffee in the morning.  Anything stronger than what you call a "weak" amount gives me a caffeine headache.  Doubling the ratio would surely launch me into orbit.  Perhaps I am more sensitive than normal...

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IMHO, you should just adjust how much you drink.  At the end of the day, you should make it the way you like it.  But you should at least try making it at the recommended ratio and see if you like it better that way.  Try using the amount of ground coffee you are used to and just decreasing the water to get the appropriate ratio.  Also, in your original post, you mention using 4 "heaping" tablespoons.  That's fairly imprecise.  A level tablespoon is about 7 g of coffee, but a heaping tablespoon may be quite a lot more than that.  So you may actually be closer to that recommended ratio than you realize.  Use level tablespoons at the recommended ratio and see what you think.

P.S.- If you are serious about improving your coffee brewing skills, I recommend buying a scale and weighing your coffee and your water.
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Posted Sat Jul 13, 2013, 1:16pm
Subject: Re: Am I using enough ground coffee in my drip maker?
 

Sorry I gave you the impression that I wasn't using a scale.  The reason I mentioned using four heaping scoops is that before I purchased the scale, that's what I was used to using.  After getting the small tabletop digital scale, I reverse-engineered everything, measuring the water amount at 38 ounces, and the coffee dose at 34 grams.  The recommended dose for that amount of water is 66 grams, considerably more than I am using.

So, tomorrow I will use the same amount of coffee, 34 grams, but use only 19.5 ounces of water, which would result in the 1.75g per ounce recommended ratio.  Drink less, end enjoy more, is what I think I am hearing.
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Posted Sat Jul 13, 2013, 3:39pm
Subject: Re: Am I using enough ground coffee in my drip maker?
 

Sounds about right, I know that the ratio I'm using now Is "Extremely weak" To most people on here, but those large amounts are too strong for my tastes...

 
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Posted Sat Jul 13, 2013, 6:01pm
Subject: Re: Am I using enough ground coffee in my drip maker?
 

AustinJerry Said:

Sorry I gave you the impression that I wasn't using a scale.  The reason I mentioned using four heaping scoops is that before I purchased the scale, that's what I was used to using.  After getting the small tabletop digital scale, I reverse-engineered everything, measuring the water amount at 38 ounces, and the coffee dose at 34 grams.  The recommended dose for that amount of water is 66 grams, considerably more than I am using.

So, tomorrow I will use the same amount of coffee, 34 grams, but use only 19.5 ounces of water, which would result in the 1.75g per ounce recommended ratio.  Drink less, end enjoy more, is what I think I am hearing.

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Sorry I misunderstood.  That would definitely be my recommendation.  For me, getting the right ratio made a world of difference in my love affair with coffee.  But it may not be right for you.  Still worth a try.  That's the beauty of coffee.  It is an incredibly personal and individual thing.
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