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Posted Tue Nov 20, 2012, 9:53pm
Subject: Sunbeam Coffeemaster cord problems, unsafe rewiring
 

I picked up an old Sunbeam vacpot at a consignment shop for 15 bucks because they didn't have the cord. I didn't think finding something to plug into it would be hard, but alas, I failed and it sat in the closet for a year. I found a cord that looked like it should work at a thrift store, but the plug was too big. So I took the plug part off and wrapped the metal pieces in electrical tape and stuffed them on and it worked beautifully. I made one of the best pots of coffee of my life.

However, the electrical tape melted. Obviously I am not an electrical engineer, but the cord didn't get hot or anything so I'm thinking if I can find a safe way to connect the cord to it then it wont be an issue. Can this be done? The only place I can find the cord online seems a little shady and I'm leery of buying another cord sight unseen.

I'm not concerned with keeping it original or anything, I just want to make more amazing pots of coffee.
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Posted Wed Nov 21, 2012, 10:14am
Subject: Re: Sunbeam Coffeemaster cord problems, unsafe rewiring
 

Vac pots make great coffee. Is the heater attached to the pot or is a base you can remove the pot from? If you can remove the pot and the bottom of the pot has a flat on it, you can use the pot on your stove.

Over the years, there have been many different plugs attached to appliances for the home. If you know what you are doing, you should be able to attach the cord permanently to the base but you will void the warranty.... :O

There may be safety issues or concerns with your home owners insurance as the device was no longer "stock" and if there is a fire, you might not be covered but there is not electrical reason to not be able to attach the cord.

I can't give you "permission" to do it but if you really want to use the maker........ ;D

 
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Posted Wed Nov 21, 2012, 11:14am
Subject: Re: Sunbeam Coffeemaster cord problems, unsafe rewiring
 

The heating element is built into it, so the stove is a no go.

My problem is that I don't know what I'm doing. Is there something besides electrical tape that will insulate it but not melt?

Now that I think about it, it could just be melting from the heat of the pot and not the electricity.
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Posted Wed Nov 21, 2012, 9:13pm
Subject: Re: Sunbeam Coffeemaster cord problems, unsafe rewiring
 

Insomniac20k Said:

The heating element is built into it, so the stove is a no go.

My problem is that I don't know what I'm doing. Is there something besides electrical tape that will insulate it but not melt?

Now that I think about it, it could just be melting from the heat of the pot and not the electricity.

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I have a Proctor Silex Percolator that has a plug that fits into my Sunbeam C30. I haven't tried to use it but it does fit in there well. Use this info at your own risk! ; )

Sunbeam plug on the left, Proctor Silex on the right in both photos.

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I chew coffee beans with my teeth while gargling with 195 F water to enjoy coffee. What is this "coffee brewing" device you speak of?
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Posted Fri Nov 23, 2012, 11:42am
Subject: Re: Sunbeam Coffeemaster cord problems, unsafe rewiring
 

If you are sure that the female pins of your cord are tight and the wiring to them is OK, clean all the tape from them.  Coat the outside of them with RTV (clear bathtub calk). Cover the outside of the pins with about 1/8" thick RTV. and cover the connection of the wire to the pin but be sure to keep the inside of the pin clean.  After the RTV cures make a potting mold of stiff paper like a manila folder  to insert into the socket of the brewer with holes for the pins to pass through.  Seal all the gaps with non drying modeling clay.  Push the female pins on to the pins of the brewer and with the brewer on it's side with the connector pointing up fill the gaps with J&B Weld.  Allow to cure overnight then pull the new connector out and sand or file it until it is aesthetically acceptable.

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Insomniac20k Said:

I picked up an old Sunbeam vacpot at a consignment shop for 15 bucks because they didn't have the cord. I didn't think finding something to plug into it would be hard, but alas, I failed and it sat in the closet for a year. I found a cord that looked like it should work at a thrift store, but the plug was too big. So I took the plug part off and wrapped the metal pieces in electrical tape and stuffed them on and it worked beautifully. I made one of the best pots of coffee of my life.

However, the electrical tape melted. Obviously I am not an electrical engineer, but the cord didn't get hot or anything so I'm thinking if I can find a safe way to connect the cord to it then it wont be an issue. Can this be done? The only place I can find the cord online seems a little shady and I'm leery of buying another cord sight unseen.

I'm not concerned with keeping it original or anything, I just want to make more amazing pots of coffee.

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Posted Fri Jul 5, 2013, 12:41pm
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I sure hope you people don't move into my apartment building! You're going to burn yourselves down!

It's not at all surprising your electrical tape melted as the bottoms and connectors of those Coffeemasters get HOT. The original plugs were bakelite, which resists heat. You did not mention the model number, but I presume it uses the 1/2" plug, which was the common standard size for coffee makers.

The plugs and cord sets can still be found. They used to be commonly sold at hardware stores, so if you have an old-timey one in your neighborhood, it's likely they still have them. Otherwise, I found them by a simple Google search. They sell on ebay and various vendors. The best price I found was $5.99 and $6.99 for a 3' and 6' cord set, respectively. Google search using keywords like bakelite vintage miniature plug.
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