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Kenson
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Posted Thu Jul 4, 2013, 1:36pm
Subject: I'm Having Trouble Tasting Coffee...
 

I have been drinking coffee for close to a year now and I have begun to notice the tasting notes that most coffees have. However I am unable to taste any of the tasting notes and coffee seems to taste the same for me.

What am I doing wrong that isn' allowing me to taste coffee properly?

I usually drink the coffee black.
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Posted Thu Jul 4, 2013, 1:40pm
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Welcome to coffee geek.

A couple of questions for you.

What coffee are you making? Grocery store? Local roaster? Something else?
Are you talking about what you buy to drink at a cafe or what you make at home?
How is it being made? How long after it is made are you drinking it?

 
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Posted Sun Jul 7, 2013, 8:42pm
Subject: Re: I'm Having Trouble Tasting Coffee...
 

You may want to check your water hardness too. If your tds is too high, most coffees you end up brewing will all end up tasting the same. Does the same problem happen when trying coffees brewed at a cafe?
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Posted Mon Jul 8, 2013, 4:47am
Subject: Re: I'm Having Trouble Tasting Coffee...
 

Another question to add... when one sees "tasting notes," are these usually from simply drinking coffee, or are they from a "cupping" session?

Big difference, I would assume.
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Posted Mon Jul 8, 2013, 5:50am
Subject: Re: I'm Having Trouble Tasting Coffee...
 

Kenson Said:

I have been drinking coffee for close to a year now and I have begun to notice the tasting notes that most coffees have. However I am unable to taste any of the tasting notes and coffee seems to taste the same for me.

What am I doing wrong that isn' allowing me to taste coffee properly?

I usually drink the coffee black.

Posted July 4, 2013 link

You should try to find a few good coffee-bars and see if they all taste mediocre.  If you find only ONE that tastes great, then it is just that your usual coffee sources are ...mediocre.

If you smoke, that generally will reduce your sense of taste.

Also, it can be age-related.  Senior people will not have good taste (or smell) sensitivity.

 
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cerridwyn
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Posted Mon Jul 8, 2013, 6:59pm
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JKalpin Said:

You should try to find a few good coffee-bars and see if they all taste mediocre.  If you find only ONE that tastes great, then it is just that your usual coffee sources are ...mediocre.

If you smoke, that generally will reduce your sense of taste.

Also, it can be age-related.  Senior people will not have good taste (or smell) sensitivity.

Posted July 8, 2013 link

While smell sensitivity does decrease with age, just like eye sight, hearing, etc., there is no magic age where it changes. Many of us 'older' folk discovered the awesomeness of good coffee well after we turned 50 (I've drank coffee since I was ... well, way too young, drank i black since I was 16). Can I pick out all the taste notes on the labels? Generally not. Can I tell the difference between an African and a South American coffee? 99 times out of 100. The one I miss will be intended to taste like the other.

Smoking though, or even living with a smoker can have a huge effect.

But more often, it's a combination of an untrained palate and the fact that some people will always be better at picking out the finer notes, whether it is coffee or wine.

 
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Posted Tue Jul 9, 2013, 12:00am
Subject: Re: I'm Having Trouble Tasting Coffee...
 

Cupping coffee or wine and whisky tasting is an aptitude that can be learned. What we call flavor is a complex sensation composed of taste (salty, sweet, bitter, sour), smell (aromas like caramel, fruity, chocolate, etc.) and mouthfeel (hot, oily, watery etc.), but it's mostly your nose that needs to be trained to identify those aromas.

In order to learn wine tasting, for example, you can get vials of the most common aromas found in wine like berries or peach. You start by smelling those until you can identify them. Then you progress to smelling and tasting wine and try to discover those aromas. By then, it's usually fairly easy to identify frequent and predominant aromas like blackberry or tannic acid. It's basically all about activating our nose memory.

For cupping coffee it's basically the same. The coffee taster's flavor wheel can help to name your sensations. Maybe this Beginner's Guide to Cupping can help you as well.

 
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Posted Tue Jul 9, 2013, 5:42am
Subject: Re: I'm Having Trouble Tasting Coffee...
 

Really, really good coffee is hard to come by.  It has to be the right bean, roasted correctly for that variety, ground to the right fine-ness and uniformity and finally, brewed (within the 2-week window) within the concentration- time-temperature constraints ...and consumed immediately after brewing.  

I had been roasting for a year or so with my old FR+8, a reasonable grinder and a lows-cost Bunn brewer and still did not get it.  I was at the point of giving up.  Then, one day I gathered all the ends of samples together and roasted them (...waste-not-want-not), delayed a few days and made a pot.  It was absolutely superb.  And, it was an 'accident' that kept me going.

Well, what was 'it'?

When I took that first sip I got ...what I call ...aroma.  It is more than an odour, more than a taste, it is something that seems to be everywhere in your head at the same time.  It is almost a different beverage.  

I can now get that all the time.  But I will admit that I have spent an unconscionable amount of money to get there.

That's why I suggested that the OP spend time in good coffee-bars.  If he finds 'it' and really likes 'it' ...then it's worth the investment.

 
Jerry
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Posted Tue Jul 16, 2013, 9:23am
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maybe you've been immune to the taste..that's why you can't differentiate it anymore.
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