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Posted Mon Jun 24, 2013, 2:34pm
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jpender Said:

Which brewing method is "precise science"?

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None of them, although Italian espresso is probably the most closely defined and analysed from a scientific point of view.
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Posted Mon Jun 24, 2013, 2:44pm
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My favorite variable is water temperature. Does it matter? The Italians say to start with cold but it is a common suggestion to start with heated or boiling water (never at a specific start temperature though).

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It doesn't matter, although some people will insist that the coffee grounds suffer from the gradual heating process if you start with cold water.  Bear in mind that in Italy this is a common or garden device just to get the job done without being too finicky.  Load with cold water from the tap (faucet). Fill the basket with coffee, screw together.  On the gas and light it - do something else until it starts to gurgle then turn off the heat.  You will have found out that the S/S ones cool down more slowly than the traditional aluminium ones, so with those you have to anticipate the brewing point a bit earlier.  S/S is easy to clean, but to use I prefer the aluminium ones.

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Different pot geometry I guess. I have ranged about 25% from valve level in my pot without the water touching the grounds.

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You can get away with a higher water level in some of the larger pots, but not so easilly with the 1 or 2 cup devices as netphilosopher has observed..
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Posted Mon Jun 24, 2013, 4:59pm
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__________ Said:

It doesn't matter, although some people will insist that the coffee grounds suffer from the gradual heating process if you start with cold water.

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How do you know they're wrong?

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You can get away with a higher water level in some of the larger pots, but not so easilly with the 1 or 2 cup devices as netphilosopher has observed..

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He has a 6 cup pot.
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Posted Tue Jun 25, 2013, 1:16am
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jpender Said:

How do you know they're wrong?

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Personal experience. Yours may differ though, and like almost every view posted on forums like this, there isn't solid enough proof to support the demands of evidentialists ;o)


jpender Said:

He has a 6 cup pot.

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One of my 6 cup pots (S/S - no manufacturer mark) has the safety valve (fill line) just at the bottom of the basket, in a couple of the others it is lower. It would work with the others, but not that one.

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Posted Tue Jun 25, 2013, 9:24am
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Personal experience. Yours may differ though, and like almost every view posted on forums like this, there isn't solid enough proof to support the demands of evidentialists ;o)

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Fair enough.
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