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DBandas
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Posted Wed May 29, 2013, 6:16pm
Subject: LaColombe vacuum cans
 

I recently purchased LaColombe Nizza, which I've had before and enjoy.  Now that I have higher aspirations for my coffee, I asked them about the shelf-life in the cans and if freezing them was okay.  They said that it would stay fresh for up to one year in the can and that freezing isn't necessary.  The website says it is pressurized and has a one-way valve that ensures freshness.

Has anyone else had experience with their new cans?

Thanks,
David
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Posted Thu May 30, 2013, 6:43am
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Welcome to the board

Fresh coffee is good for about two weeks from the day it was roasted, ground coffee is only good for about 15 minutes since it was ground.
When properly done, freezing is a perfectly acceptable way to get a little more time from FRESH ROASTED beans though the discussion rages on between the pro and anti freezing points of view. Properly means fresh from the roaster, divided up into small lots of a few days at most per bag. Remove as much air as possible then place in the coldest section of the freezer. Let the bag return to room temp before opening as this avoids condensation from forming on the cold beans and spoiling them. Use up the small bag and do the whole thing over again with the next small bag. I have as much as a month from beans with no affect to the negative that I can taste. If you can taste the difference and do not like what you taste, don't do it LOL!

When opening a can of long ago roasted coffee, it will never be as good as it was when fresh roasted and it will very VERY quickly loose whatever it has after the can is opened, like a couple of days. Most here consider it to be mulch BEFORE the can is opened.

Coffee is a food product, it is subject to oxidation and light. Cans may preclude both of those while it is sealed but even so, the coffee ages in the can and VERY quickly returns to where it would have been if it were never sealed in the can.

Ground coffee spoils so much faster due to surface area, the more surface, the faster the spoiling, thus 15 minutes from ground time frame.

Pretty much any other "advice" from a coffee retailer is just so much marketing hype, they can't keep to the freshness schedule so they do their best to "extend" the life of the coffee, which is an impossible task.

Buy fresh from a quality roaster. They will date the bag WITH THE DAY THE COFFEE WAS ROASTED. if there is a "best by" date, keep looking for fresh coffee because you are not holding it in your hand.

 
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DBandas
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Posted Thu May 30, 2013, 7:20pm
Subject: Re: LaColombe vacuum cans
 

Thank you for your thorough reply.  I've ordered about three cans, so I'll see how it tastes.  Maybe it can be my emergency stash......  I'm a newbie, so I'm going through an awful lot of coffee.

David
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Drip: Msl. Com. brewers
Roaster: gave it a try, decided no
Posted Fri May 31, 2013, 5:44am
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We all, I think, have done the same thing, we go for a name brand when first starting as we have no true idea what to do.

Espresso, the word, is used places that it should not be. For example, espresso ROAST, is just a way of saying burnt coffee. Most here do not use espresso roast, we tend to use coffee in the city to city + roast level. This roasting process is stopped before any oil shows up on the beans, oily coffee just tastes over roasted for the most part. Coffee is a product that is capable of a wide range of taste, each plantation, and often different places on the same plantation have different flavors, the darker the roast, the less you taste the subtle differences and when you get to charbucks level all you taste is the roast.

A good local roaster or online quality roasters are a great place to buy coffee. Canned, made in Italy coffee, well it is stale before it left the dock in Italy let alone the transit time, the wherehouses and the time on store shelves. A quality roaster puts the day the coffee was roasted on the bag so you know for sure when it was roasted. The quality on line roasters, ship the day the coffee was roasted and at the very latest, the next day so it gets to you about 3 to 4 days post roast with normal shipping methods. As coffee needs to degas for a few days, this is the perfect time for the coffee to get to you to use at it's peak flavor.

Hang around, ask questions and read a lot. There is a lot of info here for you, we are here to help!

 
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