jaupro Senior Member Joined: 4 Mar 2013 Posts: 1 Location: canton,ohio Expertise: Just starting
Posted Mon Mar 4, 2013, 1:47pm Subject: help me refine my process.
OK. So I've just been getting into coffee the last couple of months. Here is what I have.
An electric kettle that warms to desired specific temps.
A bodum brazil 8 cup
And a mr. Coffee burr mill grinder (current model)
I buy my beans fresh at a local roaster (muggswigz). They said via a contest they are currently ranked in the top 14 in the country. But I digress. When I taste their brewed samples they are perfect. Mine are still good but not fantastic. I'm no expert in describing the flavors I taste yet, but the best I can say is a hard sour bitterness usually at or near the bottom of the cup. Here is my process.
I grind the beans between the course and fine setting but closer to coarse.
I grind up 45 grams and pour it into my Brazil.
I set the kettle to 200, and it usually heats to 203.
I pour just under a liter into the brazil and stir semi vigoursly for about 30 seconds.
I put plunger in and stop it just barely touching the water and wait 3 more minutes
I plunge down slowly applying slight pressure at the bottom.
I then pour the coffee into my thermos brand thermos, pour a cup and cap it off and drink the rest through out the day.
calblacksmith Moderator Joined: 25 Nov 2007 Posts: 8,194 Location: Riverside, Ca, U.S.A. Expertise: I live coffee
Espresso: ECM Vene. A1, La Cimbali M32 Grinder: Azkoyen Capriccio, Major Vac Pot: 40s era Silex Drip: Msl. Com. brewers Roaster: gave it a try, decided no
Posted Mon Mar 4, 2013, 3:12pm Subject: Re: help me refine my process.
That bitterness is due to stale coffee but yes on stale coffee the salt does help a little.
On a FP, do not put pressure on the grounds in the bottom, just press until slightly above the grounds then pour very slowly so as to leave as much sediment in the bottom of the fp and not in your cup/thermos.
FP is not my method of choice when brewing coffee, I like a Vac pot or the Aeropress which works backwards from the FP.
You might try not stirring so much, you may be over extracting, which can spoil the whole pot. Perhaps it is not noticeable to you when hot but is when it cools, coffee changes it's flavor as it cools.
You are not happy at the end of the cup and you say you drink it all day long, perhaps the coffee is just past the point when it is good? Good coffee shops brew into air pots then toss the remainder of the pot at an hour due to the drop in quality coffee has when sitting.
Mods, could you please move this to Coffee General?
In real life, my name is Wayne P. Anything I post is personal opinion and is only worth as much as anyone else's personal opinion. YMMV!
Feed the newbs, starve the trolls and above all enjoy what you drink!
Posted Tue Mar 5, 2013, 1:09am Subject: Re: help me refine my process.
No mention of his grinder? A wee bit of a grinder upgrade would do wonders to help alleviate the bitterness. Much of that comes when a grinder produces too many "fines" which will then exacerbate the bitterness when you over stir.
Many here use the less expensive Baratza grinders, or Capresso Infinity for the press pot. The Baratza Encore is $129 new, but less as fully guaranteed refurb, and will do wonders for your coffee needs, from drip, vac pot (get a 5 cup Yama sometime) to press pot. click here
Lee_M Senior Member Joined: 2 Dec 2012 Posts: 51 Location: Los Angeles Expertise: I live coffee
Grinder: Baratza Encore Drip: V60 Roaster: Popper
Posted Thu Mar 7, 2013, 4:13pm Subject: Re: help me refine my process.
Well, the question is whether the salt is blocking bitterness or enhancing sweetness (which in turn balances out the bitterness). The study I linked to suggests it's the latter. Of course, it might do both.
Symbols: = New Posts since your last visit = No New Posts since last visit = Newest post
Forum Rules: No profanity, illegal acts or personal attacks will be tolerated in these discussion boards. No commercial posting of any nature will be tolerated; only private sales by private individuals, in the "Buy and Sell" forum. No SEO style postings will be tolerated. SEO related posts will result in immediate ban from CoffeeGeek. No cross posting allowed - do not post your topic to more than one forum, nor repost a topic to the same forum. Who Can Read The Forum? Anyone can read posts in these discussion boards. Who Can Post New Topics? Any registered CoffeeGeek member can post new topics. Who Can Post Replies? Any registered CoffeeGeek member can post replies. Can Photos be posted? Anyone can post photos in their new topics or replies. Who can change or delete posts? Any CoffeeGeek member can edit their own posts. Only moderators can delete posts. Probationary Period: If you are a new signup for CoffeeGeek, you cannot promote, endorse, criticise or otherwise post an unsolicited endorsement for any company, product or service in your first five postings.