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vanjait
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Posted Wed Feb 6, 2013, 9:18pm
Subject: Good machine or good bean?
 

when you trying make your own coffee what you notice first, good machine or good bean?
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Posted Thu Feb 7, 2013, 2:46am
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Without high quality beans (and a capable grinder) you cannot brew good coffee, no matter what machine you're using.

 
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Posted Thu Feb 7, 2013, 10:30am
Subject: Re: Good machine or good bean?
 

I quit trying a long time ago, I brew what I consider to be very good coffee. Great results are possible with a clean sock, an open pot and great beans properly ground (the sock can be optional, just let the coffee settle in the pot). The worlds best "brewer" feed bad beans will only give you swill to drink.
So, which is more Important, I ask you in your opinion?

 
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Posted Thu Feb 7, 2013, 11:26am
Subject: Re: Good machine or good bean?
 

Good beans with a good roast are the key.
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vanjait
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Posted Thu Feb 7, 2013, 1:17pm
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I'm not sure, that's why i thread this question. never make own coffee before, I mind from grind until roasted. I have saw many coffee machine, are they can influence the taste? more better coffee?

so i can decide what important thing to do when i make own coffee.
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Posted Thu Feb 7, 2013, 2:45pm
Subject: Re: Good machine or good bean?
 

There are many methods of making coffee, each requires a different machine or device. The TWO things that is constant with ALL methods of brewing coffee is a good grinder and good quality, properly roasted, fresh beans.

Each method may have it's own slightly different affect on the taste of the coffee but without good beans, properly roasted and ground and FRESH, you have nothing.

 
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Posted Thu Feb 7, 2013, 3:24pm
Subject: Re: Good machine or good bean?
 

There was a saying I once read to the effect that everything that you do to good coffee from roasting to brewing can only have a negative influence, that the potential is there in the coffee seed but if you don't treat it optimally then you will diminish the quality.  I'm not sure that I necessarily completely agree with this, but good coffee is the first requirement.

I once made myself a cup of coffee by just pouring hot water into a cup with the grounds in the bottom and then used a spoon to drink it, like I were cupping the coffee.  I didn't have any other good means of brewing the coffee at the time and it was enjoyable because the coffee was freshly roasted.

 
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Posted Tue Feb 12, 2013, 11:16am
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thanks for your opinion guys
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Posted Tue Feb 12, 2013, 1:08pm
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Beans. BUT brewing coffee is like a tripod with legs being: ingredients, equipment and technique. If any of the legs are too short the whole thing tips over.
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Posted Fri Feb 15, 2013, 10:28pm
Subject: Re: Good machine or good bean?
 

Good Beans.


Good quality bean are the basis for all good coffee.  


It is like a house.  
It does not matter how much money you spend on making it look great.  If it does not have a good foundation (quality beans) then it is all for nothing.
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