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Halfrat
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Posted Thu Oct 25, 2012, 7:23am
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Hi,
I am very much inexperienced when it comes to coffee. However I have learned a little from friends and the internet about the different kinds, and about the processes involved in producing it.

I'm planning a trip to South and Central America at the start of next year and I would like to buy perhaps a few kg's of coffee directly from growers, and either, send it back to the UK, where I will return almost a year later to roast, grind, package and sell it, or send to New Zealand where I will be much sooner to do the same. I've read a little about the potential longevity of green beans if stored correctly / frozen, but not sure exactly which would be best.

Obviously it would be ideal to make some of money from doing this, but really I'd be doing it more for the experience. I like coffee very much, and drink it everyday, but this is more about business, and a learning experience in international trade; all be it on a very small scale.

Basically I want the coffee community (you), to poke holes in my plan. Probably not hard, admittedly. I need to know if this is a ludicrous idea before I spend too much more time looking into it.

I hope you can help. Many thanks,

Gareth
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Posted Thu Oct 25, 2012, 8:59am
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Depends on the plantation/farm/finca and the farmer/owner, of course, but generally speaking, green coffee is sold is much larger lots than "a few kg". The average 'bag' of coffee is around 60kg, and usually coffee brokers are buying coffee bags by the shipping container load. You might be able to find a farmer who'll sell you a bag, but you'll have to set up the export permits yourself, most likely, and a single bag won't be at a huge savings.

In smaller quantities, I have no idea.
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Posted Thu Oct 25, 2012, 3:16pm
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Do you presently roast your own beans in Scotland?

How much experience do you have in roasting coffee beans?

Why on earth do you want to do this?

 
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Posted Mon Oct 29, 2012, 9:51am
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Perhaps if a farmer sells his 6000kg harvest for $2 per kg, then I could take one 60kg bag for $5 per kg. Any idea how difficult the export permit is to get? Is it a crime to send small amounts without one?

As for roasting, I've never done it before, but I undersatand it is something you can learn and do at home.

I reckon if I could break even on 1 sack and no experience, then I could turn a profit on 5 - 10 sacks at the second atempt.
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Posted Mon Oct 29, 2012, 10:07am
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So, basically...you're looking to start a business about which your fund of knowledge is zero?

 
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Posted Mon Oct 29, 2012, 10:13am
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emradguy Said:

So, basically...you're looking to start a business about which your fund of knowledge is zero?

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Perhaps he could look here?

 
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Posted Mon Oct 29, 2012, 10:17am
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LMAO!

 
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Posted Wed Oct 31, 2012, 8:19am
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emradguy Said:

So, basically...you're looking to start a business about which your fund of knowledge is zero?

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Pretty much. Not planning to stake much though, so probably won't end up bankrupt.

Sometimes you've just got to give things a crack. Sabes?

How hard can it be taking a speciality product from the jungle to the western shelf anyway?  ;-)
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Posted Wed Oct 31, 2012, 9:41am
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Halfrat Said:

Pretty much. Not planning to stake much though, so probably won't end up bankrupt.

Posted October 31, 2012 link

That's a very good plan!

Halfrat Said:

Sometimes you've just got to give things a crack. Sabes?

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Sure.

Halfrat Said:

How hard can it be taking a speciality product from the jungle to the western shelf anyway?  ;-)

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Go read all the thousands of posts in the roasting forum.  That's the part that'll make or break you in your little business adventure (assuming you know how to run a business).  Bean roasting is a science...where seconds matter.  Maybe you should buy some green beans from one of the many online sources and try roasting at home, just to get an idea what it involves?  Of course, this would assume you want to sell a good product rather than just "feed the masses".

 
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Posted Wed Oct 31, 2012, 10:45am
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Halfrat Said:

How hard can it be taking a speciality product from the jungle to the western shelf anyway?

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a) not all that easy; b) to do it RIGHT, very difficult.

 
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