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Perked
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Posted Mon Oct 8, 2012, 2:16pm
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I was wondering that too Frank, because it IS a very odd request to have.... I love sushi too but if they don't server coffee I'd deal with it.

It's a matter of restaurant culture. Certain norms have been put into place and maybe over time we will see coffee server at sushi restaurants... but I digress..


In any case, if you really see a need that is going unfilled, then that is an opportunity.....
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Posted Tue Oct 9, 2012, 11:18am
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tinacraft Said:

When I go to a shushi place I usually order the Udon soup. I know that in the Japanese culture forks are not the utensil of choice, but I simply cannot eat my soup with chop sticks. To solve this, I ask for a fork, every time. every.time. and, they give one to me! I am the only one in the restaurant using a fork, but they accommodate me to keep me happy. If they would refuse me a fork and say I must use the chopsticks, I would not eat there anymore and they would loose my business.

Forks = coffee
Tea = chopsticks

give the man a cup of coffee!

Posted October 8, 2012 link

So a restaurant should go out of their way for one person to buy an expensive commercial espresso/drip etc machine and grinder (since if they bought a $20 drip and Folgers seriously doubt you guys would drink it lol)? Sorry, this is the new Business 101, old saying "customer is always right" is long gone, I love being able to put customers in their place in my various business, I consult for the most part... if I lose a client here and there, don't matter, I've got 5 more lined up begging to do business with me.

BTW went to another one of our sushi joints last night, same thing, "b/c who would drink coffee with sushi?".

I think I'm going to go to a Greek place tonight and ask why I can't have an jamocha milkshake, or a Wagyu burger. ;p
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Posted Tue Oct 9, 2012, 12:02pm
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tinacraft Said:

When I go to a shushi place I usually order the Udon soup. I know that in the Japanese culture forks are not the utensil of choice, but I simply cannot eat my soup with chop sticks. To solve this, I ask for a fork, every time. every.time. and, they give one to me! I am the only one in the restaurant using a fork, but they accommodate me to keep me happy. If they would refuse me a fork and say I must use the chopsticks, I would not eat there anymore and they would loose my business.

Forks = coffee
Tea = chopsticks

give the man a cup of coffee!

Posted October 8, 2012 link

Do you really think the restaurant not serving coffee is analogous to your needing a fork because you can't learn to eat with sticks?  Really?  Although it's not part of their culture, they realize they're in america and people here don't grow up eating with sticks, so if they don't offer forks, they probably won't be able to stay in business.

Coffee isn't part of most of Japanese culture.  But it's not an item that's going to close them down if they don't offer it.  Sure there are experts in coffee in Japan, and you can get Japanese made grinders and other equipment, but it's not part of what is served in sushi restaurants, as a general "rule".  Guess what else, many of them don't serve milk.  Yeah, milk...when we go to them, our 4 year old drinks water.

As eluded to above, you're not going to get a Wagyu burger from a greek restaurant. Actually, you won't get one from a Japanese restaurant either.

 
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Posted Sat Oct 27, 2012, 4:42am
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This is really an amusing post. Just like the rest, I haven't been to sushi restaurants that serve coffee on the side.  Moreover, while drinking roasted coffee beans is a favorite beverage worldwide, I think it ranks second to tea among the Japanese. I am not sure about this claim though but you have better chances of getting tea with your sushi than coffee. Good luck finding a sushi restaurant that provide you with both coffee and sushi.
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Posted Sun Oct 28, 2012, 2:05am
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Greghatch Said:

Nothing is wrong with coffee. This is a coffee lover's forum. I enjoy coffee with everything.

Peril was putting it mildly. Your response, while appreciated, does not help me understand why sushi restaurants refuse to accommodate my desires. I feel as though if I more clearly understood the aversion to our beloved roasted beverage, I would have peace.  

Right now, I am deeply confounded. Why would they refuse to serve a beverage that brings millions happiness and alertness? What motives could they have that they would be so heartless? Do they want customers to be unhappy and tired while eating? And, no, I don't want tea; I want coffee.

Answers, please! Help.

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I'm not all that familiar with the Japanese culture, but I think I remember something about their affinity to teas and such, not coffee. Perhaps these sushi restaurants consider asking for coffee something like asking for a beer to accompany your banana split at Baskin Robbins. I'll admit that I prefer things like donuts or Danish pastry with my coffee, though.
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