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Sryder32
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Posted Mon Jul 23, 2012, 7:45pm
Subject: Espresso Or Coffee Maker to replicate German coffee?
 

I have been to Germany and Switzerland several times for work and am absolutely amazed at the quality of coffee they serve at restaurants. It has a layer of crema on top, and a stong yet smooth, flavor. It is a full size cup, maybe 8 ounces...not "espresso" size. What type of machine should I look for to have this at home? I had a Keurig but of course, the quality is not even close. I bought a Nespresso machine and while the quality of the brew is quite good, the cup size is very small, even on the large cup setting. Can somebody point me in the right direction to match what I get in Germany, and perhaps other parts of Europe? Thanks for any advice.

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Posted Mon Jul 23, 2012, 8:42pm
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Welcome to the forum, Shelly,
this kind of drink we call Schümli or Café Crème in Germany, see also (go down to Swiss Drink for brewing method):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caff%C3%A8_crema#Swiss_drink

If you take 2 Lungo capsules, it should fill up the cup size 120-180 ml, and get you almost there without tweaking all the grinding and timing stuff.

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Posted Mon Jul 23, 2012, 10:51pm
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Actually most Germans drink awful drip coffee. What you're talking about is, just like Outrigger said, a Café Crème (also called "Schümli"), which is a Swiss specialty coffee. What you need to do to brew it is dialing in your grinder to pull a shot of 150 ml in 25 seconds.

 
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Posted Tue Jul 24, 2012, 4:29pm
Subject: Re: Espresso Or Coffee Maker to replicate German coffee?
 

I use my espresso machine, but outrigger's instructions for your Nespresso sound pretty close to getting similar results with the eqpt you already have.

There's this thread discussion.
And this thread discussion.

Those threads also have links to other places, so they might be enlightening if not completely useful in your search.

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Posted Mon Jul 30, 2012, 6:56pm
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Thanks Eiron, and also outrigger. I read the threads on the links you sent (Eiron). There is SO much involved in getting just the right brew. For this simple mind, I'll take outrigger's advice and just do two Lungo's on my little Nespresso. The coffee is really fabulous (IMHO) from the Nespresso -- the only problem was the small cup size. At about $.60 per capsule, I suppose $1.20 for a really great cup of coffee is not such a bad price.

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Posted Tue Jul 31, 2012, 8:30am
Subject: Re: Espresso Or Coffee Maker to replicate German coffee?
 

LOL, well, we are all certainly adept at complicating a simple process, aren't we? :-D

No, I don't think $1.20 is very much for a coffee you enjoy a lot. I've paid 5x as much for coffee I've only tolerated. And when you consider not having to buy more eqpt and the convenience of simply popping out two Nespresso capsules, it kind of kills the idea of maybe reducing your coffee expense by half.

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Posted Wed Aug 1, 2012, 8:19am
Subject: Re: Espresso Or Coffee Maker to replicate German coffee?
 

Absolutely go for it, Shelly! I have a Nespresso Citiz, and I have numerous times made the double-lungo coffee shot. Using two capsules definitely puts lots of "crema" on top, so the drink has a rather silky/creamy feel. Very convenient and enjoyable, if not the most "sophisticated" coffee! Enjoy it!
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