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chiroptera
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Posted Mon Jun 11, 2012, 2:48pm
Subject: Storing measured doses
 

I want to store small one cup doses of coffee to reduce the time I spend making coffee in the morning. I grind everything at the store, and when I come home I want to separate into doses for the whole bag (1/4 to 1 lbs.) Are there any good ways to store these small amounts?
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Posted Mon Jun 11, 2012, 3:22pm
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chiroptera Said:

Are there any good ways to store these small amounts?

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Get a precision scale.  Take the pre-ground coffee and measure out into 16 g samples and place each in a small ziploc baggie. Then take them all and throw them in the garbage.
Joking aside, people on this forum believe that coffee must be ground just prior to use. Preground is not ok. Saving time in the morning is a great idea, but is always trumped by basic ideologies like fresh ground coffee.  That being said, I open a bag of whole bean (1 or 5lb bag) and separate into small 1/4 - 1/2 lb ziploc baggies, suck out the air and seal, then place back into original bag and place in freezer. I thaw 1 bag at a time and bring out a new bag when the other is almost done, to ensure constant supply of fresh whole beans.  You could do the same with ground if you like, but do yourself a favor and buy a burr grinder.
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Posted Mon Jun 11, 2012, 4:07pm
Subject: Re: Storing measured doses
 

Devin,
Great discription of storing preground micro doses!

Honestly though if the Kai values ease of use over great coffee that much (we all have our priorities) he would be a good  candidate for a single serve machine that uses K cups. The quality will be higher than the storage plan and the ease of use will be there in spades.

There is no shame with those machines when that is your top value.

 
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Posted Mon Jun 11, 2012, 4:12pm
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I would be ashamed to use K cups. Anyway, does freshly ground coffee mean coffee that is ground the same day? Or is it within a few days?
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Posted Mon Jun 11, 2012, 4:44pm
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chiroptera Said:

I would be ashamed to use K cups.

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Ashamed in front of who? I doubt it would be any worse than using pre-ground. Yes, grinding in the store turns it into pre-ground.

chiroptera Said:

Anyway, does freshly ground coffee mean coffee that is ground the same day? Or is it within a few days?

Posted June 11, 2012 link

It means it was ground immediately before brewing.

I would suggest doing a little searching through older topics in these forums. Wealth of information.
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Posted Mon Jun 11, 2012, 4:47pm
Subject: Re: Storing measured doses
 

chiroptera Said:

I would be ashamed to use K cups. Anyway, does freshly ground coffee mean coffee that is ground the same day? Or is it within a few days?

Posted June 11, 2012 link

law of 15's:
15 months from picking
15 days from roasting
15 minutes from grinding

That means not buying supermarket coffee. Need an artisan roaster (many listed on this site under recommended roasters). And grind with a burr grinder. I see you use the aeropress.  A hario mini hand mill is what I pair mine with at work (but this will increase your prep time, not decrease it).  But like I tell everyone that gives me the stare down when they see me grinding, is that the extra time in prep is actually part of the enjoyment of this craft.  Even if the coffee tasted the same, I would swear it tasted better because of the sweat and tears put into the preparation.  And it does taste better. Much better. Or get an electric version like baratza encore. Orphan espresso has many great hand grinder options.  But again, this is a great tangent from your original attempt to make life easier.  Like most things in life, better is never easier. And take some time to smell the roses.....or coffee.
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Posted Mon Jun 11, 2012, 4:49pm
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Posted Mon Jun 11, 2012, 5:23pm
Subject: Re: Storing measured doses
 

I've tried pre-ground coffee a few times when I didn't want to drag a grinder along to somewhere that I was making coffee with mixed results.

The problem was not in staling, at least not for coffee that I planned to use that day, but more of knowing in advance how much coffee I'm really going to use.  I tried a little flip top lid jar that would hold enough ground coffee for an espresso shot, but I seem to remember having trouble getting all the fine coffee grounds out of the container.  I've also tried ziplocks for brewed coffee and that seemed to work ok, but if I didn't have a cup of coffee then I'd wasted the ground espresso or coffee.

Nowadays I usually just grind at work with a hand-grinder but I'll still sometimes grind in advance when I'm going over to my in-law's house and brewing coffee.

 
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Posted Mon Jun 11, 2012, 6:08pm
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Netphilosopher Said:

I think someone here did their own investigation and found they couldn't tell the difference between well-stored preground coffee and freshly ground coffee until 3ish days...

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^^^ This has been my experience, too. If you start with fresh coffee and grind directly into a Ball jar or similar, sealing it up well, you'll be good to go for at least a day. I don't pre-grind habitually, but I wouldn't hesitate to do so if the need arose and my travel grinder were unavailable for some reason.
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Posted Mon Jun 11, 2012, 8:24pm
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diggi Said:

law of 15's:
15 months from picking
15 days from roasting
15 minutes from grinding

That means not buying supermarket coffee. Need an artisan roaster (many listed on this site under recommended roasters). And grind with a burr grinder. I see you use the aeropress.  A hario mini hand mill is what I pair mine with at work (but this will increase your prep time, not decrease it).  But like I tell everyone that gives me the stare down when they see me grinding, is that the extra time in prep is actually part of the enjoyment of this craft.  Even if the coffee tasted the same, I would swear it tasted better because of the sweat and tears put into the preparation.  And it does taste better. Much better. Or get an electric version like baratza encore. Orphan espresso has many great hand grinder options.  But again, this is a great tangent from your original attempt to make life easier.  Like most things in life, better is never easier. And take some time to smell the roses.....or coffee.

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Getting an electric grinder is something I'm working on.  I'm a busy person, and I like to save time.

Anyway, I haven't found a way practice your law of 15's without freezing the coffee. The roasters I've found don't sell in amounts less than 1 pound. That's around 2 months of coffee for me. My options are 1) I buy small amounts from a market every week or two; 2) I buy a pound from a roaster and use it for month; 3) I buy a pound from a roaster and discard what I don't use in 2 weeks.

What I've done in the past is buy whole beans from a roaster and freeze in 4 evenly divided bags. I don't like the taste around month 2.
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