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Posted Thu Jan 28, 2010, 9:21am
Subject: Vietnamese Coffee Beans anyone?
 

Hey everyone,

Was wondering if anyone knew what kind of beans are used in Vietnamese drip coffee?
I had the most wonderful cups on and off in a few local Vietnamese Pho restaurants in Toronto, GTA.

It had a very, dark chocolatey taste and aroma...
There was NO bitterness even when I didn't mix in the condensed milk yet.

I've heard of Legendee beans and the use of chemicals / animals to break down the coffee's bitter / acidic attributes resulting in a crazy smooth and rich cup of joe?
But unfortunately they don't ship to Canada...These restaurants are using some type of bean...but natually they weren't very inclined to share with me what they use =D.  And I don't blame them...

So my main question is, can anyone shed some light into what kind beans are used generally in good(or authentic) vietnamese coffee?
Or is it the method of extration that makes it so?

Thanks thanks!
Cheers,
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Posted Thu Jan 28, 2010, 9:54am
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munkybeanz Said:

So my main question is, can anyone shed some light into what kind beans are used generally in good(or authentic) vietnamese coffee?

Posted January 28, 2010 link

Vietnam is the world's second leading producer of green coffee CLICK THIS .

So to make authentic Vietnamese coffee I might suggest Vietnamese beans.  They are generally inexpensive and I am under the impression that mostly it is lower quality....that is why they roast dark and brew strong and mix with sweetened condensed milk

But my Vietnamese friends here use canned preground Cafe Bustello, Medallia D'Oro, or Cafe DuMonde for making Vietnamese-style coffee and they seem to like it alot.  All are generally available in supermarkets.

 
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Posted Thu Jan 28, 2010, 10:32am
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Excellent link Jon, thanks!, OT but boy., that's a great lookin' shot there that's being pulled on a La Marzocco Linea! {;-D

 
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Posted Thu Jan 28, 2010, 10:37am
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CraigA Said:

....OT but boy., that's a great lookin' shot there that's being pulled on a La Marzocco Linea! {;-D

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Didja happen to notice who provided that photo to Wiki???

 
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Posted Thu Jan 28, 2010, 10:45am
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WoW, no I didn't look down to see the credit. Right on Mark with his one of a kind one group La Marz Linea!! {:-D

 
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Posted Thu Jan 28, 2010, 11:24am
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Drool @ shot

Thanks Jon!  Maybe I'll give Vietnamese Green beans a try, I'm a little hesitant for the pre-ground canned coffee...as I've had pretty bad experiences with them on the silvia...@.@

Just curious though, has anyone tried Legendee beans?  Or any type of beans of that sort?  (Some where they feed the beans to animals and process the "pooped out" beans?  OR  Use organic chemical baths to reproduce the effects?)  I'm wondering if they're any good compared to regular beans that haven't been eaten...or digested...=D
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Posted Thu Jan 28, 2010, 12:34pm
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A popular coffee used by my Vietnamese friend and seems like a household name in the local Asian supermarkets is one by Trug Nguyen.

If you are seeking the traditional brewing device like the one they use in some of their restaurants, I found one at Cost Plus Imports awhile back.

You can look at this link for reference.
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Posted Fri Jan 29, 2010, 6:47pm
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I've been curious about vietnamese coffee as well, but I haven't started working on it yet.  Actually, of my 7 brew methods I have at home, my 2 vietnamese drippers are the only thing I haven't used yet.  I bought them in SF for about $2.50 each.  My thought was to buy some of the packaged/canned vietnamese stuff and start from there, but then try to make a higher quality/fresh version.  

I recently bought some green robusta beans from sweet maria's.  Although they're not from vietnam, it seems likely that vietnamese coffee is primarily robusta so that's a place to start.  I'll try some arabica as well.

The other component that I don't think has been mentioned is chicory.  JonR10 mentioned "Cafe DuMonde" which is a New Orleans coffee with chicory (not sure about the other brands).  I also bought chicory from SM's so I'll see what I can do with that.  Even though I'm pretty religious about coffee freshness, I want to try the packaged stuff as a point of reference.

Are there any other home roasters here who have attempted vietnamese coffee?  It doesn't seem like what most specialty coffee oriented people would be interested in, but I'm curious to see what I can do with it.  I might as well let my love for vietnamese food join forces with my coffee pursuits.

Bun thit nuong cha gio... drooooool...

I'm not sure about your question regarding gastrointestinal-processed coffee for vietnamese coffee.  As far as I know, in those cases (brazilian yacu bird, kopi luwak) the coffee is marketed as some sort of delicacy and is usually highly priced, so I doubt it would be something you find in a typical vietnamese coffee.
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Posted Sun Jan 31, 2010, 10:39am
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Cracklebox Said:

Are there any other home roasters here who have attempted vietnamese coffee?  It doesn't seem like what most specialty coffee oriented people would be interested in, but I'm curious to see what I can do with it.  I might as well let my love for vietnamese food join forces with my coffee pursuits.

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I roast for Turkish, and Espresso, but for Ca phe sua da I use Cafe Du Monde.  I lived in St. Louis for a while and there is a big Vietnamese community.  The restaurants all serve traditional iced coffee with the pour over drippers, and the sweetened condensed milk.  The coffee is Cafe Du Monde.  Interestingly, it tastes great even though it's pre-ground canned coffee.

Don't use the "French Market" brand coffee that a lot of super markets sell.  It is a real let down.
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Posted Sun Feb 7, 2010, 9:04am
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In the GTA, there are Vietnamese grocery stores just about everywhere. They generally carry Vietnamese y Thai coffees.....though none of it gourmet.
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